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Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics » What do you think Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  What do you think   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:35 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND Something to think about. If you fire a subsonic airgun that is perfectly level with the ground in still air, and at the same time drop an identical pellet on to the ground, which would hit the ground first? A, The rifle pellet? B, The dropped pellet? C, Both at the same time? Answer Later Al _________________   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:37 pm fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2443 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia Not counting for curvature of the Earth, they should both hit at the same time. Is the pellet being spun by rifling? An asymmetrical pellet could begin to yaw at long ranges from the rifling. I think for all knit picking purposes, a round ball should be used. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:51 pm oddtodd Silver Status Member Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 2029 Location: Richmond, IN USA Theoretically both at the same time. However under real world conditions I'd say the dropped pellet would hit first _________________ Airguns: Two starlings talking "Larry, did you hear that? Larry?? LARRY!!!!" Re: What do you think   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:54 pm J5311 Member Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 35 Location: NJ Alstone wrote: Something to think about. If you fire a subsonic airgun that is perfectly level with the ground in still air, and at the same time drop an identical pellet on to the ground, which would hit the ground first? A, The rifle pellet? B, The dropped pellet? C, Both at the same time? Answer Later Al C. haven't you seen mythbusters?   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:04 pm rsterne Moderator Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 2998 Location: Coalmont, BC C.... at least in theory.... Bob _________________ Dominion Marksman Silver Shield - 5890 x 6000 in 1976, and downhill ever since! Airsonal: Too many to count!   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:52 pm sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho rsterne wrote: C.... at least in theory.... Bob c'mon bob. we're all waiting for your diagram _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:06 pm Mark5043 Silver Status Member Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 1379 Okay...maybe I'm over analyzing it...pretty normal for me... but what if your a real tall guy like myself...even if you shoot parallel to the ground wouldn't the pellet be in the air just a fraction longer....   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:11 pm Mark5043 Silver Status Member Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 1379 OOOOOps....looks like I didn't read the question close enough.....   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:03 pm bigbadwulff Member Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 43 Location: West Tn The apple that hit Newton on the head. _________________ Beeman 1073(RS2) Chinese "POS"...or so they think 1970s Crosman 1400   Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:05 pm bigbadwulff Member Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 43 Location: West Tn The apple that hit Newton on the head. _________________ Beeman 1073(RS2) Chinese "POS"...or so they think 1970s Crosman 1400   Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:42 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands The what that hit who on the head? _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:27 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND It doesn’t matter what the shape or weight of the pellet, or what height you drop or shoot it from. They still both hit the ground together, the gravitational pull on each is the same. The limit on the speed of the pellet is because if it was unlimited then escape velocity could be reached, and you would never see it again. Who are myth busters a drag act? I did see once the Andrews Sisters. Al _________________   Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:17 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: The what that hit who on the head? A popular myth about Newton discovering gravity when an apple fell on his head. Actually, he was home on break from college (Trinity College in Cambridge was closed due to the plague). Since Cancun hadn't been invented yet, he just sat around and thought stuff up. Relaxing things like calculus, optics, and gravitation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton Quote: I did see once the Andrews Sisters. Did you get a phone number? _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:38 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND [quote="Slavia"] A popular myth about Newton discovering gravity when an apple fell on his head. Actually, he was home on break from college (Trinity College in Cambridge was closed due to the plague). Since Cancun hadn't been invented yet, he just sat around and thought stuff up. Relaxing things like calculus, optics, and gravitation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton [quote] There wasn’t an Apple? You have just destroyed my illusion of Sir Isaac. Damm! _________________   Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:16 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: There wasn’t an Apple? You have just destroyed my illusion of Sir Isaac. A little known fact is that there was an apple, but it didn't fall out of a tree. A neighbor down the road (Henry Witherdick-Smythe) had just shot the apple from a cannon while at the same time dropping one to the ground. Newton intercepted and ate the apple, thus preventing Witherdick from publishing his results. Newton could see that both apples were going to hit the ground at the same time, so he stole the idea and published in Principia in 1687. Witherdick-Smythe went back to his job as chamber pot repairman. How's that for getting back on-topic? _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego! 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