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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Rifles » Walther Talon Magnum W/ Nitro Conversion Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Walther Talon Magnum W/ Nitro Conversion   Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:11 am VENI VIDI VICI Member Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 71 UPS man droped her off today, I will write a full review once i have it broke in, scope sighted just right and maybe get a hunt or 2 in. First impression, this thing is a beast, very powerful! Accuracy is pretty good, I am still testing pellets to see what it shoots best But with 22 grain H&N cuda's it hits crazy hard!   Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:28 am BBgunNoob Veteran Member Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Posts: 327 Location: Pa how does the stock feel ? like is it pretty solid ?   Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:31 pm VENI VIDI VICI Member Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 71 BBgunNoob wrote: how does the stock feel ? like is it pretty solid ? This is one of the reasons I chose this rifle, I wanted a synthetic stock, the butt is hollow, reviews on pryamid had people filling them with silicone, I don't see myself doing this since the gun it pretty heavy as is. The over all feel is very sturdy and solid, I find it to be quite comfortable. Looks great also.   Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:19 am VENI VIDI VICI Member Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 71 I have put about 750 shots through it now and feel its pretty well broke in. The scope shiped with the rifle is garbage, i replaced it with a 4-16x40mm CenterPoint http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Centerpoint_Optics_Adventure_Class_4_16x40_Rifle_Scope_w_free_Shooting_Stick/2566 This made all the difference in the world, for me this scope compliments the rifle nicely. My only true complaints would be the hollow butt stock transfers the sound of the recoil, and the trigger pull leaves a little to be desired. 5 shot group 25yrds 14.3gr crossman premiers The home made target was a dot half the size of a dime on a 8x11 sheet of paper, which I covered with the second and third shots. 16 gr Polymags yielded nearly the exact same point of impact and similar grouping, dime sized at 25yds, 21gr cuda's had a higher point of impact at 25yds(.5" above center), with i found odd considering they are so much heavier. I cant seem to get them to group as well as the crossmans or polymags. I have yet to test it at longer distances with the new scope, but with the old scope i was hitting a rockstar can at 100 paces 8 outta 10 shots on a breazy day with the premiers. I'm hoping to get better results with the current set up.[/img]   Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:25 am kanyon Silver Status Member Joined: 09 Aug 2008 Posts: 1582 Location: New Zealand Heavyer pellets do hit higher sometimes than light ones.. The pellet takes longer to exit the barrel so the gun has lifted more by the time it exits.. Pack the stock with house heat / sound proofing I use "bats"...a fibaglass heat & sound proofing.. Just keep pocking it in with a stick/etc till yer can't get any more in.. Pete   Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:40 am VENI VIDI VICI Member Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 71 I was considering filling it with expanding foam, thought that might be easier.   Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:48 am kanyon Silver Status Member Joined: 09 Aug 2008 Posts: 1582 Location: New Zealand VENI VIDI VICI wrote: I was considering filling it with expanding foam, thought that might be easier. Be careful...If yer put to much in it can build up enough pressure to crack the stock...little bit at a time/// Pete   Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:16 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands kanyon wrote: The pellet takes longer to exit the barrel so the gun has lifted more by the time it exits.. Holy CRAP that's IT. I already wondered why the heavier ones got out higher. Why didn't I think of THAT! _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:38 pm fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2444 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia I would go for duct seal or something dense. Great-stuff (sprayfoam) isn't... but I suppose it could still cut the vibrations. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:08 pm AirIndy Member Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Location: Indianapolis, In Well if the stock is the basic type with a removal butt plate than cracking the stock from overfilling is not an issue. The excess will just flow over the top. I used duck tape around the stock to ensure that the overflow foam wouldn't stick to the outside of the stock. I used some lead balls wrapped in duck tape for extra weight. Did this on Mossberg 22LR, CVA Muzzleloader and Gamo Shadow 1000. No problems.   Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:31 am VENI VIDI VICI Member Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 71 First off it's not so loud it ruins the shooting experience, anything heavy and dense is out of the question as it already weighs close to 10 lbs. The spray foam will kill most of the noise, since it is directly atributeted to the stock being hollow, filling the void should do the trick. Haven't removed the butt pad yet, may have to drill a hole, will fill it and let the excess spill out, the stuff I get at work does expand but not nearly enough to crack the stock.   Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:02 am sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho broommaster2000 wrote: kanyon wrote: The pellet takes longer to exit the barrel so the gun has lifted more by the time it exits.. Holy CRAP that's IT. I already wondered why the heavier ones got out higher. Why didn't I think of THAT! that rule is the same for burners broom. you notice it especially in handguns. _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:11 am VENI VIDI VICI Member Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 71 The spray foam worked well. Butt pad was a b!tch to get off, I literally had to use a vise grip in conjuction with a small Phillips screw driver to get the screws to come out! Long story short the hollow sound is gone, replaced by an unusual twang I can only assume is unique to the nitro piston.   Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:16 am VENI VIDI VICI Member Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 71 I must say I am really impressed with Crosman Premier pellets. All Crosman pellets actually! I picked up a bunch of pellets from BassPro yesterday, all of my guns seem to love them! This stuff is cheaper than the Gamo pellets but actually performs very well. I love the RWS stuff I just dont like the price! I just wish the made a .22 in a 16-17gr, They make a .177 in a 10.5 so im surprised they havent made a heavier .22 pellet. I dont have a crono, but from what I have read I should be in the 24-25fpe range with any of the 3 varieties or .22 premiers. I think i can live with that   Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:11 pm sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho VENI VIDI VICI wrote: I just wish the made a .22 in a 16-17gr, They make a .177 in a 10.5 so im surprised they havent made a heavier .22 pellet. try JSB. they come in 15.9 and 18.1 grain. beeman also makes pellets in the weight range. _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it....... 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