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Air Gun Home Forum Index » The BS Topic » The Arms Race Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  The Arms Race   Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:23 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA For some reason my wife thought our 17-year-old son needed another Nerf gun for Christmas (complete with talking target). He already had a Gatling type. Knowing that big sister would soon be a target, I bought one for her. Then my son comes to me asking if a Nerf gun can be modified, and I said "sure." The gun is interesting in that it has a check valve at the breech. Air can only enter the barrel if the tail of the Nerf dart pushes the valve open. It closes after the dart has traveled about 1 cm. down the barrel. We yanked the valve out. That, plus a lube tune with a can of silicone. In stock form it pushed the 22.37 grain dart at a muzzle velocity of 49.75 FPS (0.1230 FPE). Modified it achieved the brutal speed of 51.32 FPS (.1309 FPE). Which is neither here nor there, since big sister later confiscated all the darts in the house. You see how easily one can fall into the depraved abyss of airgun abuse? One day you're shooting your Crosman, declaring that you can "give it up any time." The next day you're modifying Nerf guns. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:00 am cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 You could always do a 3K psi HPA conversion and end up with a PCP nerf gun.   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:11 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: You could always do a 3K psi HPA conversion and end up with a PCP nerf gun. Or a close encounter of the lacerating kind with all the plastic shards. Four springs and the screws are the only metal in there. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:14 am yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA What caliber are thoes darts? You and CW have got me thinking? _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:37 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA The bore measures 0.525" They all have that spike in the middle (and the darts have a corresponding hollow tail). In most cases the foam tail rests in the bore, with the somewhat larger head outside the gun. I'm sorry I can't say how much larger, since the older sister has hidden all of younger brother's darts. Except for the one that bounced off her head and got lodged in the Christmas tree - we're still looking for that one. The sonic darts that whistle as they fly are the best. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:38 pm cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 Care to share you thoughts?   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:39 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA That settles it... I am going to have to build a high powerd dart launcher... _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:47 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA The closest ID tubing I can get is 0.527" but for darts... It should be close enough... I will make an upper end for a 2240 just for Nerf darts... Don't tell your son... It could hurt allot more if he was to shoot is sister with this thing... This should be fun! _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:57 pm cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 What is the normal range for nerf darts?   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:00 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA I don't know... But Salvia all ready put a base line down for FPS... If I was to use a solid projectile... that woud be 52.7 Cal... I might be braking the law...??? _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:04 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA Wait a second... I could just make an adapter to go on the end of the barrel... Humm that sounds easier... I am heading to Kmart or Target to see if they sell just the darts.... _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:28 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA My suggestion would be to take your 1088 and make a new brake, along these lines: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ARR225-7.html Walmart sells replacement darts, so you don't have to buy the plastic gun. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:33 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: What is the normal range for nerf darts? Across the living room, through the dining room, and all the way across the kitchen. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:06 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA Stop thinking like me! I looked at the foam practice golf balls while I was there... I did not buy some... I don't have the 1.5" tubing I would need... I did score on a 16 pk of the standard darts and a 10 pk of the Sonic Micro Darts... I passed up the glow in the dark ones... I have to change my shirt and wrap my wrists and then it is down to the shop! I will shoot video later... _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:09 pm Rogerflat Silver Status Member Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 2051 What kind of bad idea is an AR-15 that shoots golf balls? _________________ I done been assisted by the trees and rivers. Never needed any minister to figure my divinity. 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