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ksmrf · Member

Somebody please shoot me with a spoon. Just kidding all you people that can't tell sarcasm Evil or Very Mad

. I have had a benjamin titan for about a month now and I have been through two scopes. The packaging the scope comes on leaves a lot to be desired. No box just a bubble wrap bag. Anyway... I can't seem to get a group. I am shooting Crossman premiere 10.5 domed at somewhere between 850-920 fps. My hits are all over the place. One shot will be really close to my p.o.i. and the next is all the way to the top of the target and left.
Is it just I suck with this heavy recoil break barrel or are other people having the same sort of problem????

whm1974 · Veteran Member

If this is your first break barrel, then maybe this will help:

http://www.pyramydair.com/article/The_artillery_hold_June_2009/63

and this:

http://www.pyramydair.com/article/The_right_pellet_makes_a_difference_October_2009/72

toadmyster223 · Senior Member

I had a little trouble with the original scope on my titan, and making sure my mounts were sufficiently tight. Once I replaced it with a UTG, I had no more trouble

Big Bore Bart · Member

Others have given some good advice,,,,,,and then there's this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v63d8PsklN0

Mentolio · Veteran Member

My Crosman Vantage NP bore the name "scope killer." I went through 3 different sets of rings and three of the bundled scopes before I gave up on that crapola and bought a better scope and mounting system. Accuracy was unattainable as well. If you want to verify that scope creep is your problem (as it was mine), mount up your scope and rings, crank 'em down tight, then run a Sharpie marker across the receiver (where the rings mount to the dovetail) and over the scope tube (where the ring caps cover it). Go shoot 30 or so pellets, and see what has moved, you may be surprised. I bought a better (slightly) scope and mount (RWS Lockdown), which seemed to help, until that scope broke. The first warranty replacement for the new scope went on another gun (where it lived nicely, and took most of my squirrels last season).
Ultimately what seems to have "fixed" my problem was a new stock and mounting lug (composite from a Nitro Venom Dusk). Seems my wood stock didn't "bed" the action tight enough, and changing it seems to have remedied the problem. My Vantage is now my most accurate springer, rock solid dependable, and since I'm no longer afraid to break scopes, wears a nice UTG Swat scope (on top of a UTG Dovetail to Weaver adapter). Try the marker thing. If things keep shifting, no matter how tight you make the screws, contact Crosman and see if they'll float you a new stock. Once you can keep things from moving around, invest in something better than that "bundled" junk. Though they say: "can handle the recoil of a 454 Lapua (BALONEY!)," I think any powerful springer is just going to destroy the wire reticle (and I have two bundled scopes that can attest to this).

ksmrf · Member

thanks for all the advise

rualert · Member

On the three springers I have all have destroyed the bundled scopes, and even the low power rifles I got for my kids moved, and eventually killed those too. Like other stated, a solid mount with stop pin, and an actual magnum springer rated air gun scope fixes the problem. There are plenty of powder burner scopes rated up to 458 mag, or even 500 Nitro express, but they only have to handle their recoil in one direction. Remember your spring guns recoil in both directions, which will kill anything not rated for a full power spring gun. So just adding the your other responses, I too love the UTG / Leapers dovetail to weaver mount rail, or the RWS, and BKL mounts. I actually have had pretty good luck with a Centerpoint 4-16X40 AO on a Gamo Big Cat that literally beat the cross hairs out of it's boxed scope in three tins of pellets, and I was wondering why it wouldn't shoot a group with a proper light hold. The cheap scope just could not take the beating.

Casey

ksmrf · Member

thanks again. I think im going to return it and hold off for a marauder

donwalk · Veteran Member

Mentolio · Veteran Member

Sorry to hear it. I have an Mrod myself, and while it's a great rifle, I shoot my springers far more often. The Mrod is easier to shoot overall, but requires a lot of "support equipment" to operate (scuba tank, fill station), especially in the field. It also doesn't come with any optics (unless you buy a "bundle," I guess).
If I may suggest it, don't give up on the springer. Sure, they require a bit more work "out of the box," and are challenging to shoot accurately, but once you have a springer set up the way you like it, it becomes THE go-to gun in your collection. And for hunting, I love just grabbing a gun and some ammo and not worrying about lugging the scuba tank/etc out to the car for my trip.
Whatever you decide, best of luck!