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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 12:24 pm Reply with quote
ksmrf
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Howdy all
I know this probably been addressed here but i have tried to search it and cant find anything.
Is there anything i can do to lighten the pull on the stock trigger on the titan xs? I tried the screw to shorten the second stage but it is a booger to pull. I am new here and this is my first post so be kind to the new guy please.
Benjamin titan xs 3 9x32 scope shooting crossman domed 10. something pellets. still breaking in the barrel. had about 100 or so shots through it. another question is I hear i should clean it while break in. How often?
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 7:20 pm Reply with quote
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Regarding the trigger: there are several videos on YouTube that explain how to modify the Crosman/Benjamin trigger that your airgun came equipped with. You can also replace the trigger altogether with a Charlie DeTuna Trigger, which is supposed to make it a TRUE 2 stage adjustable trigger. I did a "washer mod" to my Crosman, and it shoots well enough that I keep talking myself out of the the CDT Trigger.

Regarding cleaning of the barrel: I believe most would say to clean it before shooting it. I know my Crosman barrel was a hot-mess, fresh out of the box. I just shot it like that, not knowing any better. Cleaning the junk and rust out of my barrel made my groups much tighter, and my accuracy more consistent. That said, it's not a powder-burner, and once clean, the barrel will stay clean for a long time. I believe general consensus is that an airgun barrel need only be cleaned once in every thousand or so shots, unless you notice you accuracy faltering. In contrast, a powder burning firearm should be cleaned every time your done firing it. Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:09 am Reply with quote
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ok thanks for the info. I did the trigger mod on you tune and it still needs a little tweeking.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:30 am Reply with quote
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ok so what cleaning method do you all recommend.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:52 am Reply with quote
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Regarding cleaning of the barrel: I believe most would say to clean it before shooting it. I know my Crosman barrel was a hot-mess, fresh out of the box. I just shot it like that, not knowing any better. Cleaning the junk and rust out of my barrel made my groups much tighter, and my accuracy more consistent. That said, it's not a powder-burner, and once clean, the barrel will stay clean for a long time. I believe general consensus is that an airgun barrel need only be cleaned once in every thousand or so shots, unless you notice you accuracy faltering. In contrast, a powder burning firearm should be cleaned every time your done firing it. Hope this helps.

I agree completely.

Your trigger can be found on a couple of zillion different guns; I own two. The so-called first stage is really just the trigger swinging through space without touching anything. The adjustment screw works by pre-staging the sear, so when you cock it you leave either a little or a lot of sear engagement/second stage. That also means that if you screw it in too far it will be hanging by a thread when you cock it, which isn't safe. Lastly, since the trigger doesn't touch anything in "stage one" it needs its own spring to return it to the full forward position.

You could do a proper "trigger job" by honing, polishing, and de-burring the parts, which would make it smoother. The downside is that it requires gunsmithing skills to keep the angles the same and not round over edges that should remain sharp. Done wrong and safety becomes an issue.

Some have simply removed the trigger spring, which makes the trigger lighter. (The sear has its own spring.) It also means the trigger doesn't return to the full-forward position on its own, so the first stage will be variable.

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Regarding the trigger: there are several videos on YouTube that explain how to modify the Crosman/Benjamin trigger that your airgun came equipped with. You can also replace the trigger altogether with a Charlie DeTuna Trigger, which is supposed to make it a TRUE 2 stage adjustable trigger. I did a "washer mod" to my Crosman, and it shoots well enough that I keep talking myself out of the the CDT Trigger.

The trigger has a little pin that pushes the sear. This mod puts washers around the pin, adding a kind of a smooth roller effect. Since the washers are much larger than the pin, they will always be in contact with the sear. The sear spring then pushes the trigger forward, and you don't even need the trigger spring. The low cost appeals to a lot of people, but here's the catch - if the washers are too big they will hold the sear near the point of discharge, just like turning the adjustment screw in too far. There is a huge potential for making the gun unsafe.

For $40.00 USD there are replacement triggers that are adjustable, easy to install, do away with the trigger spring, allow full sear engagement, and mark the second stage with a leverage change. Do a Google search for the GTR and GTX triggers. I made my own parts using the same geometry as the GTR/GTX, but it takes a lot of monkeying around. $40.00 is a fair price. If it were my gun I would shoot it as-is until it has broken in, saving up for a GTR/GTX all the while.

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