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jtukbb7 · New Member

Hey all,

I grew up plinking around our rural property in western Maryland with a small bb gun, and have recently had a growing desire to go out and get one again--since I remember loving it so gosh darn much.

I went out and got your average Crosman 760 and am having a hell of a time with it! (Though I remember being a better shot than I am now!)

Anyway, I thought I'd have a looksee online to find some other people out there who like this sort of thing, and hopefully broaden my airgun horizons.

Cheers

Kai

Slavia · Moderator

Welcome to the forum!

oddtodd · Silver Status Member

See, that's the way it starts. You buy a 760. Then you get tired of pumping your arm off, and think, hey, I'd like a break barrel. THen after a while you think, wow that little co2 pistol looks fun. Then you end up like me. Shooting 3 different kinds of comentition, owning 7 rifles, 8 pistol, and thinking maybe I need a PCP?

Slavia · Moderator

Don't let oddtodd scare you off. It is possible to be content with just one gun. I just never heard of anyone doing it.

It's spring - go outside, be safe, and have fun. Have a look in the target section of this forum for target ideas.

oddtodd · Silver Status Member

one question. are you shooting bbs? you may be more accurate, plus bbs will eventually ruin the gun. for a lot more accuracy use lead .177 pellets. your gun will thank you! they are a lot more expensive, but bbs will eventually ruin the rifling in your 760.

DavidSaunders · Veteran Member

As oddtod said Pellets are likely to be more accurate.

Though the current Crosman 760's are smooth bore and not rifled. If you find that you enjoy shooting AirGuns there are a lot of low cost pumpers out there to upgrade to also.

For example My 2 favorites are the Daisy PowerLine 880 (good powerful .177 cal pellet gun), and the Crosman 2289G (decent .22 cal pellet gun).

There are others as well. Everything from the Crosman 2100 (low power pumper, though more powerful than the 760), on up to the Benjamin 392.

I personally prefer the Daisy Powerline 880 and 901 as they are accurate and powerful guns if you are willing to put a bit of work into them. And they do not cost a fortune like most guns in there power/accuracy range.

oddtodd · Silver Status Member

ehhh, pumpers are too much like work. Plus, from personal experience with my son,you can hear that clack clack clack forever in the woods no matter what you try to do to mufle it. If you are just shooting backyard and need 3 pumps, by all means get a bugout kit. It's how they sell the 2289 g now. It's crosman and it's all metal unlike the daisys. It also folds down tofit in the backpack for nice storage. It's survived my 13 year old son since he was 12. And he shoots it every day. If you want something you can hunt with later on, get a titan. they are 149, .22 and 21 ft lbs. Three things that make it a killer value for the money. Plus, they are real wood and steel, which helps in the steadiness factor. See, I like .22 because it make a bigger wound channel, plus after myown experimentation the hollowpoints expand to almost 3 times the size of a .177. You can just hunt a lot larger animals with a lot higher safety factor with it. They also bleed out quicker if you have to go for a heart/lung if it's vermin like rat, possum or starling. Heck, you hit a starling with 21 ft lbs in a .22 and they just fall over. Sheer shock value. Plus you cock it once,not pump it up 10 times. www.pyramydair.com is your friend. lol

DavidSaunders · Veteran Member

@Oddtod:
There are ways to quiet the pumping sound. All of mine are quite quiet.
On the Crosman guns it just takes a strip of felt on the pump tube where the metal part of the pump arm makes contact.

On the Dasiy's it takes a similar application of felt plus reducing the size of the nub that locks into the spring to keep the arm held closed.

Must agree about liking .22 cal. I would love to get my hands on a good Daisy 22SG. And I do have a heavily modded Crosman 2289G.

Though I do not like the guns that have wood instead of plastic, or pot metal instead of a good resin. My reason is that in my experience the wood stocks ware out way quicker than the plastic, and the metal recievers also ware out way to fast, not to meanton the pump arms waring out and bending on the Crosman guns that use a metal pump Arm (I have had to replace the pump arm on my Crosman 2289 5 times so far, and the steel breech has a notable grove in it from loading pellets).

oddtodd · Silver Status Member

See? there is exactly what I am talking about. The only pumper I would ever own personally is the sheridan series of rifles, and unless I have a specific needto control my fps, I am going with a break barrel or underlever. I like steel, brass and beech. 98% of the pumpers out there don't have that, and even the ones that do, don't hold a candle power-wise to a decent break barrel. I am going rat hunting with my son today in my ex-wife's barn, and he will be using his 2289 because it won't blow holes in the metal siding. I will be using my Beeman RS2(no not the one with the interchangeable barrels.) I will be using hollowpoints for heart-;ung shots because I know they won't come out the other side. In a barn I can't afford to miss. It's 1000 fps, and I know I won't be able to take about half my shots. But my son is 13. I am 45. He can pump his little arm off. I can't. He will get 5 shots before his accuracy drops off. I will get at least 30. I have to have results and I can't get them if I have to pump 10 times between shots. I have a crosman custom 2400. It's CO2. It's not powerful enough and it's close to the same power levels as a pumper on a 70 degree day. You may be able to get .2 patterns on your daisy, but I can on my titan, and I can do it to a groundhog that is making tunnels that a cow may break a leg on. Can you kill a groundhog with 9 ft lbs? I can with 21. I take the whole top of his skull off. I just don't think a pumper is as capable and a lot of people on here will agree withme. Believe me, if I didn't have a bad back, it would be a maurauder in .25 with a hill pump.

DavidSaunders · Veteran Member

Well I know that My Daisy 880's will take a ground hog with out a second thought. They would even before they were modified, though now they are 12.4FPE and 12.6FPE respectively. And they are super easy to pump, so your arms do not where out Smile

. I am not aware of any Crosman CO2 guns with the power I get out of my Daisy 880's, nor am I aware of any Crosman gun of any kind with the accuracy I get our of the Daisy 880.

I am aware that most do not like putting the work in to do accuracy modifications to there Daisy MSP guns, though it is worth the 5 minutes to do it. And the 9.5FPE of a stock Daisy 880 is enough to take most small game out to 50 yards, many things out to 60 yards, and have a good quick and clean kill.

And if I need the extra power for something a bit bigger than normal, or further than 60 yards I will use my power modified Crosman 2289 that delivers 15.2FPE with no trouble.

Personally I could never master the springers. With a springer that can deliver good groups with a different shooter I am lucky to get .5 inch groups rested at 25 yards. For this reason as well as the added expense of scopes for springers I stick with MSP air guns. I am glad that you do well with springers.

wadcutter · Suspended

Speaking of PCP's, I owned one once, and it was indeed a powerful air rifle, but then I realized that it was someone else's compressor that charged my tank to 3000 PSI, not my own muscle, so I sold it!

I know now that you can get a hand pump to charge a PCP, but why bother owning somethng that puts out 30-40 FPE if you're not interested in killing anything?

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