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 Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:48 pm |
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| DavidSaunders |
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Low cost MSP air guns tend to be discounted out of hand despite being quite capable. As such I will present a look at two well known MSP Air guns that have both been made in .22 cal and .177 cal. This will also look at the advantages of the two calibers. The guns chosen are chosen for the fact that the Crosman guns are 100% identical for both calibers in the power plant, and the Daisy guns are identical in both calibers for power plant.
The reason for looking at the two calibers as well as the different guns is that there seem to be some that prefer a particular caliber, even if the energy to target is equal (or in some cases a little better with the opposite caliber).
The two guns are the Crosman Backpacker (2289 for .22 cal, and 1389 for .177 cal), and the Daisy Powerline 880/822/22sg (880 = .177 cal, 822/22sg = .22 cal).
All information provided is based on testing the stock unmodified guns. I will not be talking about how much plastic etc, this will be a comparison of the guns from a point of view of how they perform. I will attempt to leave all personal opinion out of the information provided.
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So first up is the Daisy Power line 880:
-.177 Caliber.
-Up to 9.5FPE at muzzle, and 7.3FPE out to 25 yards.
-Single shot Pellet gun.
-Multi pump.
-Good mechanical advantage for pumping making it very easy to pump to full power.
-Very accurate (extremely accurate), dime sized groups out to 40 yards.
The Daisy 822/22SG are identical to the Daisy 880 with the following exceptions.
-.22 Cal.
-Up to 8.7FPE at muzzle, and 6.8FPE out to 25 yards.
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Now for the Crosman 2289 Backpacker:
-.22 caliber.
-up to 7.25FPE at muzzle, and up to 5.71FPE out to 25 yards.
-Quite accurate, Dime sized groups out to 30 yards.
-Single shot Pellet Gun.
-Easy to pump, do to good mechanical advantage, though about twice as hard to pump as the Daisy 880.
-Multi Pump.
The Crosman 1389 is identical to the Crosman 2289 with the following exceptions:
-.177 Caliber.
-Up to 8.1FPE at the muzzle, and up to 6.25FPE out to 25 yards.
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Now there are other issues related to penetration, channel, etc with the pellets in these calibers, this is not the point of the thread. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:54 pm |
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| DavidSaunders |
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I will add that the sample Air guns that I mentioned above can all be modified to produce more power than stock. I am sticking with stock figures in the comparisons.
My Daisy 880 will produce nearly 15FPE when pumped up all of the way, and my 2289 will produce 14FPE. These figures are not of consequence for this comparison because they are not of 100% stock Air guns. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:04 am |
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| DavidSaunders |
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| I forgot to mention that all numbers mentioned for power in the originating post are with 16.7 grain cylindrical pointed pellets (both .177 and .22). This is so that Pellet weight can not be a consideration as the .177 pellets weigh the same as the .22 pellets being tested. |
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