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Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics » Confused by airgun termalogy. Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Confused by airgun termalogy.   Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:06 pm Robw Veteran Member Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Posts: 441 I am confused. If Crosman calls the receiver on their pistols a breech. Then what is the actual breech (the end of the barrel opposite from the muzzle) called? And if the compression chamber/valve mechanism is called the valve, what is the valve alone referred to as?   Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:18 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND The breech is the end of the barrel where the pellet goes in, the receiver is the part behind the breech the receives the pellet before being pushed into the breech. The valve is used on Co2/compressed air guns, and compression chamber on spring powered guns as a rule. Al _________________   Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:37 pm Robw Veteran Member Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Posts: 441 You are absolutely right. So, I just ordered a steel receiver that the breech of the barrel will fit in to. I did order a breech also. It is attached to the replacement barrel that's coming.   Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:50 pm ZipSnipe Veteran Member Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Posts: 327 So I have had it wrong when I said I was making breeches for the 2240. I should be saying that I am making receivers for the 2240 right? _________________ You can have tomorrow, I'll take yesterday !!!   Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:22 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6931 Location: "Out There" Crosman uses the term "breech kit" on it's steel receivers. Why- I have no idea- but it seems to have caught on to where many people are referring to the receiver as the "breech". _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:02 am rrdstarr Member Joined: 18 Feb 2013 Posts: 26 Location: Victoria, BC terminology..... Breech loader is anything that doesn't load from the muzzle. Especially in the old days when black powder was transitioning to smokeless powder. Crosman should call their breech a [i}receiver[i/] AND should be engraved with the serial number instead of the main tube. I built three rifles in gunsmith school, so kinda know what I am tanking aboot![/i] _________________ 3 2240's in various stages!   Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:56 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Then there are muzzle "brakes" on airguns, which serve a completely different purpose than redirecting combustion gases to counter muzzle rise. Plus apparently "brake" or "break" are equally acceptable spellings. And don't forget "point blank range." The Hollywood definition ("near the muzzle") isn't right. Or "ball" ammunition that isn't spherical. Or people that think double-set triggers and two-stage triggers are the same thing. Or the various incarnations of the phrase "lock and load." Or "conical" bullets that are actually ogival. Then throw in some archaic terms like "grain" and "dram." Voilà! You've got shooting sports nomenclature, indecipherable even to the faithful. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:10 am radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA Oh yeah, spelling can be confusing on this stuff too. Most common forum errors I seem to notice... Brake (stop or stopping mechanism) vs Break (bust) Breech (rear barrel entry) vs Breach (break through) Through (penetrate completely) vs Threw (past tense of throw) To (toward) vs Too (also) I threw that ball to you, but you missed it and it went right through the window. Whem mom sees that she's going to break my neck, and maybe yours, too. But,the,ones,I,can't,read,are,the,no,spaces,after,punctuation. Sorry...off topic there. _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:15 am whm1974 Veteran Member Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Posts: 337 How about "clip" instead of magazine.   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:38 am rrdstarr Member Joined: 18 Feb 2013 Posts: 26 Location: Victoria, BC whm1974 wrote: How about "clip" instead of magazine. WRONG! Clip is from an M1 Garand or mauser pistol. Magazine is what you read or load into a firearm. _________________ 3 2240's in various stages!   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:36 am whm1974 Veteran Member Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Posts: 337 Quote: WRONG! Clip is from an M1 Garand or mauser pistol. Magazine is what you read or load into a firearm. Yes I KNOW a clip isn't a magazine. Maybe I should have worded it diffrently.   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:27 am rrdstarr Member Joined: 18 Feb 2013 Posts: 26 Location: Victoria, BC whm1974 wrote: Quote: WRONG! Clip is from an M1 Garand or mauser pistol. Magazine is what you read or load into a firearm. Yes I KNOW a clip isn't a magazine. Maybe I should have worded it differently. Sorry! Didn't mean to snap! But that is a common mistake from people not "into guns". _________________ 3 2240's in various stages!   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:45 am radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA whm1974 wrote: Yes I KNOW a clip isn't a magazine. Maybe I should have worded it diffrently. No, I got it. The "instead of" gave it away. I am guilty of sometimes using the term "clip" too when I am referring to a magazine. I know the difference, but one just picks up bad habits sometimes. I used to have an Austro-Hungarian, straight-pull bolt, Mannlicher carbine, and had to fire it as a single shot until I found some clips at a gun show. _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:34 pm whm1974 Veteran Member Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Posts: 337 Quote: Sorry! Didn't mean to snap! But that is a common mistake from people not "into guns". I used to bug people corrent people myself about this.   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:35 pm rrdstarr Member Joined: 18 Feb 2013 Posts: 26 Location: Victoria, BC radar wrote: Oh yeah, spelling can be confusing on this stuff too. Most common forum errors I seem to notice... Brake (stop or stopping mechanism) vs Break (bust) Breech (rear barrel entry) vs Breach (break through) Through (penetrate completely) vs Threw (past tense of throw) To (toward) vs Too (also) I threw that ball to you, but you missed it and it went right through the window. Whem mom sees that she's going to break my neck, and maybe yours, too. But,the,ones,I,can't,read,are,the,no,spaces,after,punctuation. Sorry...off topic there. I see this all too often! I have two bachelor's degrees(Anthropology and Sociology) and two trade certificates(Machinist and Welder). So I try not to correct peoples spelling and grammar, even though I REALLY want too!!! Surprised more people don't use the spellchecker or grammar check!!! Maybe people are just lazy??? Or to used to texting..... _________________ 3 2240's in various stages! 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