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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:11 pm |
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:14 am |
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:15 am |
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| Slavia |
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| Happy birthday! Check back with your impressions about the gun. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:19 pm |
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| robert w |
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| happy birthday enjoy it . i had to buy my own bd present and i have a diana 350 headed my way |
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:40 pm |
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| Slavia wrote: |
| Happy birthday! Check back with your impressions about the gun. |
Thanks fellas!
The weather has been crappy. The gun is all-weather, but the targets aren't Hopefully tomorrow I can get some real shooting in. I popped a few last night...enough to know the factory trigger would be better replaced with a roughly whittled wooden stick that can be twisted and yanked out of the gun to release the piston whenever the barrel was pointed in the geographic quadrant of the target board.
(I took care of that today. I may order a trigger, but it feels satisfactory to me, so far, with the mods.)
It feels hard to break the latch open. Not particularly hard to cock, but it does seem to have the same cocking pressure throughout the stroke, rather than a progressive increase like a metal spring has. This does make me think that a more powerful model with a piston could be harder to cock, because the leverage is poor at the beginning of the stroke, where a metal spring is still pretty soft. I haven't measured this stuff...just my impression.
The shot cycle is smooth, but it does jump up and right for me. (I'm a lefty rifle shooter) and maybe that's what people mean when they sometimes say they have a "snappy" feel to the shot(?)
It is definitely quiet and soft in report with that barrel shroud.
Accuracy hasn't been tested yet because of the trigger, it was shotgunning all over with H&N Hunter hollowpoints at 20 yards, but sort of feeling like I was pulling a 75 pound chunk of concrete about 2 feet down a gravel road...sometimes uphill, sometimes downhill...no surprise there.
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| happy birthday enjoy it . i had to buy my own bd present and i have a diana 350 headed my way |
Thanks! Sweet about the 350! Your're gonna love that raccoon killer. I got to get down there some weekend with a trunk full of airguns. Want to shoot that 350. You probably know they ship those Dianas pretty dry, and you might put a few drops of their spring cylinder lube on the spring. My 34 was crunchy in cocking it, and a bit harsh firing it, until I lubed it a little and some normal break-in time. Smooth as silk pretty soon. No teardown needed. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:52 pm |
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i got this one used from a friend who is a way off . he has done the diana lube needs. and heck yes we need to kill my spinners with some air power. as for the benji, i put a gold trigger in the 1 i had . it devoleped some issues and walmart was not keepin th e1 i had so i uped for cash back after i took the gold trigger out which i sold but got a gamo big cat in its place . i had to do extensive work on it and still doin work on it. now its a gas ram conversion. and its smooth to cock all even pressure all the way. now i need a new seal for the piston. but get back with me when your gonna be in the area so we can plan a shootin day  |
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:28 am |
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Yeah, it will probably be at least springtime before I go anywhere, but that will be fun.
A gas ram conversion? Cool. Will the big cat take the same piston seal as a Quest/Optimus/B19? I have a slightly used Apex seal fro ARH you can have. I put the factory seal back into the Optimus .22 because it was very twangy and harsh, and I don't think the seal was the problem now, but when I had it torn down I did a few things to it to fix it. Smooth now, so I'll keep it this way, but if you want to try out the Apex seal, I'll just mail it to you no cost. Its got maybe 50 shots on it...not sure if it fits the Gamo BC or not though.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:04 pm |
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Finally got a good shooting time today. I like the trigger mods, but I am still getting the GRT-III trigger. Sent for it today.
It likes H&N Spitskugel and RWS Superdomes the best, and the grouping was quite good. I will probably use the Superdomess because I like them for hunting. It shoots a narrow muzzle velocity range, with the 14.5 grain Superdomes, of 702 fps low, 711 fps high (of 5) for an average of 706 fps/ 16.0 ft.-lbs. This is after about 200 pellets into break-in. No evidence of dieseling.
The scope that came with it is very clear, has mil dots, and a nice parallax adjustment--definitive in focus enough to use as a pretty good range finder. I also like the 3-9 power, and the design of the adjuster turrets because you can turn them by hand and there are no caps to remove.
I'd have to say I'm pretty pleased with this whole kit so far.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:19 pm |
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| radar wrote: |
Yeah, it will probably be at least springtime before I go anywhere, but that will be fun.
A gas ram conversion? Cool. Will the big cat take the same piston seal as a Quest/Optimus/B19? I have a slightly used Apex seal fro ARH you can have. I put the factory seal back into the Optimus .22 because it was very twangy and harsh, and I don't think the seal was the problem now, but when I had it torn down I did a few things to it to fix it. Smooth now, so I'll keep it this way, but if you want to try out the Apex seal, I'll just mail it to you no cost. Its got maybe 50 shots on it...not sure if it fits the Gamo BC or not though. i had a gas ram from some other gun . i measured and did some head scratchin and it looked like i can make it work . so apart the cat went and a little lathe work and she is now a gas ram. id give you something for that seal . id be happy too . be worth something and so name a price and we can get togater on it
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:32 pm |
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| I only gave $8 for it as part of another order where I had to pay shipping for anyway. Now it's used. Hows about $4 if you must pay something. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:05 pm |
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| im tryin to remember`who makes them but there is some hardend steel washers for the pivot bolt and they help accuracy too . if i can get my brain back in gear i will let you know. i put a pair in the titan i had and it realy helped. i think that gun you just got has plastic washers in it unleas they made some changes to them |
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:07 pm |
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:16 pm |
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| robert w |
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darn you beat me i used the steel ones he had but he might have dropped the steel washers. ok i went lookin and i seen a cats toy layin by my chair and the lite bulb came on air gun toyz . ok your covered now  |
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:08 am |
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LOL.
I haven't installed them yet. I just got done with a tune on a Crosman Optimus tune, and ordered a spare pair of the metal spacer/washers...and now I got the new Trail, so I'm glad I did. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:09 pm |
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Happy belated B-Day Radar, and nice score!
I have the "Hardwoods" version (wood stock, same power) and love it. Once you change the trigger (if you haven't already) the difference is like night and day . The silky smooth (and consistently predictable) trigger pull/second stage really helped my groups. Superdomes work well in mine too, but you may want to try some 14.66 gr H&N FTT's - they work VERY well. No problem hitting a 1-1/4" spinner target all day long @ 50 - 55 yards.
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