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mod90 · Veteran Member

I'm soon to be in the market for a new pcp, can't go bigger than .25 cal though(but oh how I'd like to).
Anyway, I'm looking for opinions on whats the most powerful option out there. Looking for something that can move a 35-42 grain pellet at between 920-990 fps. So far I haven't had much luck searching online. The purpose of the gun would be to hunt brocket deer and peccary at a range out to 70 yards at most.
Any help I can get will be really greatly appreciated.

AirGunEric · Site Admin

I only have one name- Condor.

Really- for 900+ fps in .25 cal, your choices get a bit limited. I'm sure there are other (European made rifles)- but at twice the price.

mod90 · Veteran Member

Looking into it, and it looks promising. But how easy/difficult do you think it might be to tweak a condor to get it closer to 90-100 ft lbs? I hear people saying 75-80 ft lbs out the box is standard, so with a little modding cud it be improved?

rsterne · Moderator

Not sure why you want that much power.... 950 fps with a 35 gr. pellet is 70 FPE, with a 42 gr. pellet it's 84 FPE.... Drive the pellet any faster and you are likely to have accuracy problems....

Most people seem to find that the JSB 25.4 gr. Kings at about 950 fps (50 FPE) are the most accurate for the longer distances.... some have success with the 31 gr. H&N Baracuda (Beeman Kodiak) in the high 880s (53 FPE).... The number of people who find EunJins accurate at long ranges are far fewer.... but there are some barrels that apparently like them....

If you really need something in the 100 FPE class, you need to start looking at 50 gr. plus "pellets", and they are few and far between....

Bob

AirGunEric · Site Admin

As Bob pointed out- much higher is essentially useless- the closer you get to the sound 'barrier' the more inaccurate its going to become- both heading into it, and coming back out of it. If you need that much power for whatever you are hunting, then I think it might be time to think about getting a larger caliber or a powderburner.

mod90 · Veteran Member

I understand your point guys, but I can't go big bore in this little backward nation(gun ownership here is severely regulated, to the point that its ridiculous). I'm also aware of accuracy issues when going over 950fps. So to compensate I'd increase the projectile weight as needed, most likely by casting my own bullet/pellet to slow it down a bit.
I'd love to get a Shinsung or Samyang, but as i said, seriously stupid laws prevent this.
Thanks for the help fellas.

SMP · Silver Status Member

Mod

I think the AirForce suggestion is a good one. Because of the linear design there is a lot of potential there.

What is the absolute largest caliber you are allowed to to have? (To the third decimal please Wink

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mod90 · Veteran Member

Largest caliber air/firearm over all would be .450 cal. But getting a permit for it would be damn near impossible here so I won't even waste my time looking at that. No point in wishing/hoping/trying for something that you know you cant have.

SMP · Silver Status Member

I meant you specifically Mod.

Is 25 cal the largest you can carry. as in .250

or .259, maybe .269

or .299

You see where I'm aiming. If your looking at casting your own might as well squeeze out every little bit

mod90 · Veteran Member

Yeah, .250 is as big as i can have. Whatever gun I decide to get will have to go to the police armorer for ballistic registration and caliber confirmation before it gets to my hands. And I do see where you're going SMP. If its a little bigger, say .252-3 the police armorer may or may not make it an issue, but I prefer not to chance it.

justsayno · Member

problems with casting your own bullets heavier. twist rates are per certain bullet weights. change the weight, it might not like it.

rualert · Member

I would have to say look into a AAA Condor from Talon tunes, and some of Jerry's slugs. You can check out the Talon Airgun forum, and you will find more than one there shooting 100+ ftlb's with custom Condors. You can most likely do, or purchase the handful of parts needed to get to that range without buying a full blown AAA Condor if you are able and willing to do the upgrades your self. It's tough to beat a fully shrouded 25 cal 100 ft lb Condor for 100 yard shooting.

Twisted Evil

Casey

Robw · Veteran Member

I have a .22 cal Condor that does 123fpe with solids and have heard of others putting out way more.

rsterne · Moderator

The most powerful quarterbore I know of is the new Jack Haley Scandalous.... It has managed 310 FPE, but the catch is that it is .257 cal and uses 120 gr. cast bullets and drives them nearly supersonic....

Bob