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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:52 am Reply with quote
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Just bought a TF87 underlever. Anyone have one?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:35 am Reply with quote
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Where did you get it. They look like a nice gun.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:40 pm Reply with quote
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garththomas wrote:
Where did you get it. They look like a nice gun.


Pyramyd Air. Got it for 99 bucks. Was 189.

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TF 87 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:04 pm Reply with quote
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Rick36 wrote:
garththomas wrote:
Where did you get it. They look like a nice gun.


Pyramyd Air. Got it for 99 bucks. Was 189.

Same here. Will get it about May 5. Always wanted an inexpensive underlever airgun to fix up. (.177 cal)
It got mixed reviews, but I like the fixed barrel.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:58 pm Reply with quote
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cyberfish2 wrote:
Rick36 wrote:
garththomas wrote:
Where did you get it. They look like a nice gun.


Pyramyd Air. Got it for 99 bucks. Was 189.

Same here. Will get it about May 5. Always wanted an inexpensive underlever airgun to fix up. (.177 cal)
It got mixed reviews, but I like the fixed barrel.


Good going.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:52 pm Reply with quote
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Cool. They had a Tech Force 87 in stock? I thought PA quit carrying those.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:04 pm Reply with quote
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Cool. They had a Tech Force 87 in stock? I thought PA quit carrying those.

Fer $99 bucks, it had to be a closeout sale. PA has quit listing this model. I wanted an inexpensive underlever model to try to convert to NP/GP.
No doubt it will require a full tune before I ever shoot it.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:53 am Reply with quote
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cyberfish2 wrote:
radar wrote:
Cool. They had a Tech Force 87 in stock? I thought PA quit carrying those.

Fer $99 bucks, it had to be a closeout sale. PA has quit listing this model. I wanted an inexpensive underlever model to try to convert to NP/GP.
No doubt it will require a full tune before I ever shoot it.


Yeah, I just checked the site and it is no longer available. I did read a review from some guy that does a lot of reviews on different guns and he said it took him a while to get to the point he could get respectful groups on the target. I tried to pull the review up again and post it here but for some reason it wouldn't download.

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Learn as you go tuning. 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:09 am Reply with quote
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Yeah, I just checked the site and it is no longer available. I did read a review from some guy that does a lot of reviews on different guns and he said it took him a while to get to the point he could get respectful groups on the target. I tried to pull the review up again and post it here but for some reason it wouldn't download.

I think I read that same review. I ordered the TF87 just because it was the cheapest underlever airgun I could find.
I'm new to gunsmithing airguns; my wife refers to it as "my latest obsession". Fortunately, many (inexpensive) airguns are simple designs, and easy to tune. I learned a lot from converting the Gamo Whisper to NP. Just changing the spring for the nitro piston, changing the trigger and piston seal, and honing out the piston bore turned an OK shooter into a very accurate and smooth gun. The parts cost was just under $100, inc ship, and about a days tinkering that could have been done in about an hour, if I knew ahead of time what was required.
When I get the TF87, I'll put a few test shots over the chrony to have some "before" data, take it apart, clean and deburr everything, and see what needs to be repaired or replaced.
I bet I'm gonna like the results.

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cyberfish2 wrote:
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Yeah, I just checked the site and it is no longer available. I did read a review from some guy that does a lot of reviews on different guns and he said it took him a while to get to the point he could get respectful groups on the target. I tried to pull the review up again and post it here but for some reason it wouldn't download.

I think I read that same review. I ordered the TF87 just because it was the cheapest underlever airgun I could find.
I'm new to gunsmithing airguns; my wife refers to it as "my latest obsession". Fortunately, many (inexpensive) airguns are simple designs, and easy to tune. I learned a lot from converting the Gamo Whisper to NP. Just changing the spring for the nitro piston, changing the trigger and piston seal, and honing out the piston bore turned an OK shooter into a very accurate and smooth gun. The parts cost was just under $100, inc ship, and about a days tinkering that could have been done in about an hour, if I knew ahead of time what was required.
When I get the TF87, I'll put a few test shots over the chrony to have some "before" data, take it apart, clean and deburr everything, and see what needs to be repaired or replaced.
I bet I'm gonna like the results.


Let us know how it goes.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:36 am Reply with quote
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Rick36 wrote:
Just bought a TF87 underlever. Anyone have one?

Did you get yours yet? Shoot it?
PA sent me a used one @ the new gun price, which I sure they will make right. It had a 10 for $10 cert in the box from 2010.
All the cert info was just 10 FPS(about 1100), no target, and the pellet used, and 4 check marks that the gun worked ok.

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Re: New gun 
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:15 pm Reply with quote
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cyberfish2 wrote:
Rick36 wrote:
Just bought a TF87 underlever. Anyone have one?

Did you get yours yet? Shoot it?
PA sent me a used one @ the new gun price, which I sure they will make right. It had a 10 for $10 cert in the box from 2010.
All the cert info was just 10 FPS(about 1100), no target, and the pellet used, and 4 check marks that the gun worked ok.


Yes, it arrived and I've shot it several times. Shoots hard and seems to be accurate. I'll need a few more shots outside to really tell. Kind of hard to do where I live.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:53 pm Reply with quote
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Rick36 wrote:
cyberfish2 wrote:
Rick36 wrote:
Just bought a TF87 underlever. Anyone have one?

Did you get yours yet? Shoot it?
PA sent me a used one @ the new gun price, which I sure they will make right. It had a 10 for $10 cert in the box from 2010.
All the cert info was just 10 FPS(about 1100), no target, and the pellet used, and 4 check marks that the gun worked ok.


Yes, it arrived and I've shot it several times. Shoots hard and seems to be accurate. I'll need a few more shots outside to really tell. Kind of hard to do where I live.

PA responded quickly to my email, but wanted pictures. Fortunately, I took some as I unpacked it, and before I wire brushed the rubber butt plate to remove the dried glue & styrofoam. They ask for pix of the 10/$10, too, which I provided. I got the impression PA couldn't quite believe they had made that kind of mistake, or, more likely, it was because I told them I intended to keep the TF87.
First impressions: The wood stock is very nicely finished, although the checkering is more cosmetic than functional. As is typical on most inexpensive airguns, all the stamped metal parts are sharp edged, and required a generous amount of deburring. The piston seal is scored from burrs in the cylinder bore. I test fired about 120 rounds with different pellets, using the supplied open sights, and briefly, a laser pointer. I can't evaluate the accuracy yet because my 73 year old eyes don't work too well with open sights anymore, but I did keep 'em all on the paper at 30m.
The light weight pellets are supersonic, with the resulting sharp crack @ over 1126fps. I will be getting a scope for it. The cocking force is moderately heavy, but I couldn't measure it because my wife has loaned out the luggage scale, but my best guess is near 35-40 pounds.
The trigger is two stage adjustable, something not mentioned in the manual.
This is my first fixed barrel, underlever airgun. I will be converting it to GP/NP, and doing some additional tuning.
I hope my long-winded review hasn't bored you to death, but I'm home bachin' it for a week while my wife is off traveling. Somebody has to stay home and take care of the cats.

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Re: New gun 
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:52 pm Reply with quote
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cyberfish2 wrote:
Rick36 wrote:
cyberfish2 wrote:
Rick36 wrote:
Just bought a TF87 underlever. Anyone have one?

Did you get yours yet? Shoot it?
PA sent me a used one @ the new gun price, which I sure they will make right. It had a 10 for $10 cert in the box from 2010.
All the cert info was just 10 FPS(about 1100), no target, and the pellet used, and 4 check marks that the gun worked ok.


Yes, it arrived and I've shot it several times. Shoots hard and seems to be accurate. I'll need a few more shots outside to really tell. Kind of hard to do where I live.

PA responded quickly to my email, but wanted pictures. Fortunately, I took some as I unpacked it, and before I wire brushed the rubber butt plate to remove the dried glue & styrofoam. They ask for pix of the 10/$10, too, which I provided. I got the impression PA couldn't quite believe they had made that kind of mistake, or, more likely, it was because I told them I intended to keep the TF87.
First impressions: The wood stock is very nicely finished, although the checkering is more cosmetic than functional. As is typical on most inexpensive airguns, all the stamped metal parts are sharp edged, and required a generous amount of deburring. The piston seal is scored from burrs in the cylinder bore. I test fired about 120 rounds with different pellets, using the supplied open sights, and briefly, a laser pointer. I can't evaluate the accuracy yet because my 73 year old eyes don't work too well with open sights anymore, but I did keep 'em all on the paper at 30m.
The light weight pellets are supersonic, with the resulting sharp crack @ over 1126fps. I will be getting a scope for it. The cocking force is moderately heavy, but I couldn't measure it because my wife has loaned out the luggage scale, but my best guess is near 35-40 pounds.
The trigger is two stage adjustable, something not mentioned in the manual.
This is my first fixed barrel, underlever airgun. I will be converting it to GP/NP, and doing some additional tuning.
I hope my long-winded review hasn't bored you to death, but I'm home bachin' it for a week while my wife is off traveling. Somebody has to stay home and take care of the cats.


Good review. Yes, Pyramyd is pretty good about making things right. I've bought dozens of things from them.

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