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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:47 am |
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| oddtodd |
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| How fast does a pellet need to go before hitting the sound better?It's a benjamin RS2. I hear a very distinct crack when I shoot it. I already cleaned the barrel spotless and I can't see any oil in the transfer port. I know it's a lot harder to cock than my storm XT. It's supposed to be a 1000 fps rifle, but we all know how manufacturers like to inflate numbers. I am just curious if I am, because that way I need to go to a heavier pellet. I'd like to know I am hitting harder too. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:24 pm |
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| i though it was around 1100 give or take. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:32 pm |
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:03 pm |
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| That crack could just be the echo of the dieseling. It may not mean your are breaking the sound barrier, |
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:02 am |
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| Try a heavier pellet. If there is still a crack, it's probably dieseling. If the heavier pellet doesn't crack thean it probably is pushing the light ones over 1100 |
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:04 am |
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I've built a QB 78 and using an extended tube, pumped it to 2000PSI and it shoots a 5 grain Thunderbolt pellet at 1426 FPS and very accurate. This easily breaks the sound barrier ( 1116 fps at sea level ) it gives an amazing crack when doing so.
If I fire indoors at 30 yards......nothing. It only seems to do it in the field and when it's out a bit, giving me the impression the pellet is still accelerating.
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:38 pm |
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| giving me the impression the pellet is still accelerating. |
Sorry, absolutely impossible, there is no force available to accelerate the pellet after it leaves the muzzle, only slow it down....
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:16 pm |
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I do bow to your greater knowledge, but why the difference do you think. I shot indoors at 85 ft and only the report of the initial firing, but in the field definately a second crack.
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:41 pm |
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:08 pm |
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:50 pm |
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| Sonic crack is somehow related to how much distance you have. Long story short, a supersonic projo fired into a bucket of sand a couple feet away doesn't go crack. Same projo same gun same weather fired at a target across the field does. I don't know why but I have observed it before more than once. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:02 pm |
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Todd, you didn't list pellet weight.
I once (stupidly) shot some crosman silver eagles-4.8 grain
thru my .177 gamo hunter 440 and hit 1030 fps. (I have a chrony)
there was a definite crack compared to 7.9's @840.
Still 100 fps below the sound barrier.
I assumed it was piston slam.
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:15 am |
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dosn't air pressure & altitude go hand in hand
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:11 am |
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I shot in the air, so no impact noise. I also let a few people hear it, and they all asked what the noise was. My mate shot at a target at 50 yards and even the 5 grain pellet made an audible whack when it hit. And yes it was very accurate. I have two rifles that do it.......this one does it with 7.9 grain pellets as well.
I'm hopeing for a misty day to try and fire into it, to see if anything is visible ? Anyone tried this ?
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:27 am |
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| dosn't air pressure & altitude go hand in hand |
Rsterne is correct - temperature is the biggest factor. It's true that the speed of sound is lower at higher altitudes, but that's because the temperature is less. If you go really high (like 60,000'+, or into the ozone layer) the temperature increases, even though there isn't much pressure. The speed of sound actually increases at those altitudes, because of the temperature.
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