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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Rifles » HW-35 'Don'ts'    View previous topic :: View next topic  HW-35 'Don'ts'   Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:05 pm diipii Member Joined: 09 Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Location: Worcestershire, UK If you are fettling an old HW 35 DONT do this. Fit a Titan spring Fit a top hat AND a spring guide with the standard spring. Either but not both. Fit any spacer washers to increase standard spring pre-load. (Any of the above will stop the gun cocking. Something gun shops don't tell you while pocketing your cash.) Fit a Logan silencer. Doesn't do anything. I am now expert at dismantling and rebuilding this rifle and can even refit those $£@^& shim washers at the breech in seconds. I have also spent wodges of cash to bring you this info so donations would be nice. But the daffs are coming up and the snow's gone...again... Re: HW-35 'Don'ts'   Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:24 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands diipii wrote: If you are fettling an old HW 35 DONT do this. Fit a Titan spring Fit a top hat AND a spring guide with the standard spring. Either but not both. Fit any spacer washers to increase standard spring pre-load. (Any of the above will stop the gun cocking. Something gun shops don't tell you while pocketing your cash.) Fit a Logan silencer. Doesn't do anything. I am now expert at dismantling and rebuilding this rifle and can even refit those $£@^& shim washers at the breech in seconds. I have also spent wodges of cash to bring you this info so donations would be nice. But the daffs are coming up and the snow's gone...again... Well, in my opinion the HW35 is a hopelessly outdated piece of rifle. They're not essentially bad. They're just very old-fashioned. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:03 pm fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2442 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia Broom, if you get a HW35 and don't like it... I'll remove your misery free of charge. It may be outdated, but it seems to work. Why did you try to alter it in the first place? Tune? Stronger spring? _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person. Re: HW-35 'Don'ts'   Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:27 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6929 Location: "Out There" broommaster2000 wrote: Well, in my opinion the HW35 is a hopelessly outdated piece of rifle. They're not essentially bad. They're just very old-fashioned. Anything more than a week old Broom doesn't think is cool- he's gotta be a young man still... _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:08 am diipii Member Joined: 09 Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Location: Worcestershire, UK fritz wrote: Broom, if you get a HW35 and don't like it... I'll remove your misery free of charge. It may be outdated, but it seems to work. Why did you try to alter it in the first place? Tune? Stronger spring? I am treating this old rifle as a place to try ideas. I didn't pay a lot for it and it's in good shape apart from an unusual amount of very sticky wax/grease inside it when opened for the first time. It seems to be responding well from my efforts so far.   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:19 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Say Diipii, how are your general ideas on the action of the rifle, and the internals? That Grease/Wax is very typical for Weihrauch's rifles. New ones tend to Diesel. I also have to state right here right now that their quality has seemed to go down the last couple of years. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:32 pm diipii Member Joined: 09 Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Location: Worcestershire, UK broommaster2000 wrote: Say Diipii, how are your general ideas on the action of the rifle, and the internals? That Grease/Wax is very typical for Weihrauch's rifles. New ones tend to Diesel. I also have to state right here right now that their quality has seemed to go down the last couple of years. The rifle seems generally good and not much used apart from all the gunk inside. I had a job to remove the piston it was so bad. The trigger is very good and much crisper since being cleaned. The lock time seems to be faster now but I have no chrono yet to prove it. Maybe lightening the piston a little helped here. The piston seal was good but very stiff in the cylinder and slides well now. I have experimented with a copper loaded grease at the rear end of the piston where it bears on the cylinder when cocking. I prefer not to have steel on steel on it can be helped. I am now shooting to let everything bed in again. Consistency is poor but to be expected at the moment.   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:48 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands diipii wrote: broommaster2000 wrote: Say Diipii, how are your general ideas on the action of the rifle, and the internals? That Grease/Wax is very typical for Weihrauch's rifles. New ones tend to Diesel. I also have to state right here right now that their quality has seemed to go down the last couple of years. The rifle seems generally good and not much used apart from all the gunk inside. I had a job to remove the piston it was so bad. The trigger is very good and much crisper since being cleaned. The lock time seems to be faster now but I have no chrono yet to prove it. Maybe lightening the piston a little helped here. The piston seal was good but very stiff in the cylinder and slides well now. I have experimented with a copper loaded grease at the rear end of the piston where it bears on the cylinder when cocking. I prefer not to have steel on steel on it can be helped. I am now shooting to let everything bed in again. Consistency is poor but to be expected at the moment. You could try piston buttons. Have a look on google to see what they are. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:10 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6929 Location: "Out There" broommaster2000 wrote: You could try piston buttons. Have a look on google to see what they are. That's useful. Why not post some information on them here? That would, after all, be the point of the forum. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:15 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands I've posted about it in the past in the Diana 48 topic I think... _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:35 am diipii Member Joined: 09 Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Location: Worcestershire, UK broommaster2000 wrote: I've posted about it in the past in the Diana 48 topic I think... I am aware of piston buttons but ignorant of how to fix them. However following advice on this thread have now found an article on the net with instructions for making and fitting plastic buttons. Next time the rifle is in bits I will experiment with these. There certainly is enough play in the piston/cylinder fit to install them. This is great info. Many thanks. 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