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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Picture Gallery » New and improved ! Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic    Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:57 am Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND fritz wrote: I thought you where limited to under 12fpe. Now I'm liking the law in England even more. To shoot airguns over 12 flb you need to apply for a FAC certificate, Basically a fire arms licence, but if your going to do that you may as well go for a .22 rim fire. Al _________________   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:59 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Alstone wrote: fritz wrote: I thought you where limited to under 12fpe. Now I'm liking the law in England even more. To shoot airguns over 12 flb you need to apply for a FAC certificate, Basically a fire arms licence, but if your going to do that you may as well go for a .22 rim fire. Al You're also not allowed to shoot in your garden anymore, right? Which makes sense of course. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:08 am SnowBunny Veteran Member Joined: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 158 Gone Last edited by SnowBunny on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:25 am; edited 1 time in total   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:10 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands He IS a US poster. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:22 am fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2442 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia Because he is a US poster is why I had to say something about supressors. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:09 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND broommaster2000 wrote: Alstone wrote: fritz wrote: I thought you where limited to under 12fpe. Now I'm liking the law in England even more. To shoot airguns over 12 flb you need to apply for a FAC certificate, Basically a fire arms licence, but if your going to do that you may as well go for a .22 rim fire. Al You're also not allowed to shoot in your garden anymore, right? Which makes sense of course. You can shoot in you garden any airgun up to 12 flb, but not powder burners or FAC airifles, don't forget FAC pistols are banned here. Al _________________   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:18 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Alstone wrote: broommaster2000 wrote: Alstone wrote: fritz wrote: I thought you where limited to under 12fpe. Now I'm liking the law in England even more. To shoot airguns over 12 flb you need to apply for a FAC certificate, Basically a fire arms licence, but if your going to do that you may as well go for a .22 rim fire. Al You're also not allowed to shoot in your garden anymore, right? Which makes sense of course. You can shoot in you garden any airgun up to 12 flb, but not powder burners or FAC airifles, don't forget FAC pistols are banned here. Al Sounds reasonably reasonable. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:26 pm fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2442 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia How popular are airguns in England? Like does everyone and their brother own one? Or is it more like 1 in 5? 1 in 10? I guess you can include all types of airguns. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:29 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND fritz wrote: How popular are airguns in England? Like does everyone and their brother own one? Or is it more like 1 in 5? 1 in 10? I guess you can include all types of airguns. Air gunning is very popular in England most of the male population own or have owned an airgun, also we have the most top quality air gun manufactures in the World based here, plus some of the biggest airgun forums. The type of guns owned over here by serious users are BSA, Air Arms, Webley, Theoben, Brocock, Daystate, Parker hail, Weihrauch etc. PCP air guns are very popular and most club shooters use them or a quality springer, the same applies for hunting and FT. There is very little market for American made guns, you very rarely see a Crosman or Benjamin although the odd Disco is turning up now and then, plus we do have the usual Chinese crap which is usually sold in sporting goods shops, air gun dealers don’t tend to stock them as it would look bad selling them next to a Daystate etc. All in all the air gun scene in England is doing ok at the moment, you have to realise that there are so many restrictions regarding powder burners that everyone turns to airguns with very little problems. Al _________________   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:35 pm fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2442 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia That's good reason to move to England, but I don't think I could do without being able to own a .45. Your gun laws are worse than NJ, even in NJ we can carry concealed. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:31 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands I think it's rather typical and pretty sad that you base a countries preference on what caliber you're about to carry concealed. All a guy needs is 12 Fpe and a good back yard. Just keeping the discussion going. Had a rough night. Mosquitos, you can only hear them. They drive me mad!!! _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:21 am fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2442 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia Who said "concealed". Once I move out of Jersey it should be a state with OPEN carry. Like it should be. But let's save that topic for another forum. I can barely stand NJ. It's probably illegal for me to have this tin of RWS .22 HP next to me. God forbid I had some in my pocket and they fell out in front of a cop. He who gives up his rights for temporary peace and safety deserves neither. I'm sure you had nothing to do with the laws, Broom. I feel sorry for you guys. The same with Aussies. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:05 am Rogerflat Silver Status Member Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 2051 I still like the idea of a law enforcement officer coming to your house...WITH a CHRONY, and testing your airgun to see if it is over 12 ft/lbs. Like when they passed the law, they actually issued out chronies to all law enforcement agencies and trained them how to use them and enforce the law. LOL And what if you just happened to be "fresh out" of pellets for him to use when testing your ag? I assume he has a sampler pack in his police car, which of course would be in all calibers, including 20 cal! And if your airgun is only 11 ft/lbs, then the cop would have to pack up his chrony and embarassingly apologize for the inconvenience. What I would do is call in to the cop shop and anonymously report myself or someone else as using a an overpowered airgun. Just to see if the cops would even bother coming out, or have the capacity to even test the ag to see if it is in violation. Remember that these laws are passed by clueless beaurocrats, and most of the time have no practical way of even being enforced. _________________ I done been assisted by the trees and rivers. Never needed any minister to figure my divinity.   Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:49 am fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2442 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia Oh, Broom: Forgot you where in NL... I keep thinking you are in England for some reason. I have always wondered what is stopping English airgunners (and Canadian) from just modifying their "legal" guns to be over 12fpe/500fps. If someone were to question the legality you could easily swap out parts and become legal again... not hard. I guess these laws are based on the honor system? _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:00 am Rogerflat Silver Status Member Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 2051 Quote: I guess these laws are based on the honor system? No law should be based on people being stupid enough to actually obey it. _________________ I done been assisted by the trees and rivers. Never needed any minister to figure my divinity. 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