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Alstone · Moderator & Site Supporter

I was reading the other day about a new airgun calibre of .14 with a pellet shaped similar to a .22 long rim fire, unfortunately the guy who owned the book took it home and I can’t remember the title.

From what I gather is that all major European manufactures have signed up to use the standard as all it will entail basically is a barrel change, great things are forecast for this small cal, they are copying the military in going for smaller size, plus with the pellet being more like a firearm bullet it will be a lot heavier size for size compared to a ordinary pellet.

Anyone heard anything about this development in airgun technology ?

Al

Slavia · Moderator

A while back Pyramydair had a survey going to see if people would be interested - I can't find any mention of the results.

The logic behind the military's switch to smaller calibers was twofold: First, a soldier could carry more ammunition for the same weight. Second, they shoot flatter, so no more training for bullet drop. With a 25 meter zero you can hit a human target out to 250 meters.

I don't believe either of those two cases applies to airguns (at least I hope not). To me, it smells of a plot to use novelty to generate more sales.

thepaladin · Senior Member

Ok, I'm jaded, but...cheaper to make...less material...less power in an airgun than even a .177. A diablo shaped .14 calibor will move at blistering speed, carry very little impact energy, and be HUGELY unstable. AND like the .177 would be pushed by the mfg.s and everybody else...except the shooters of course.

Jaxom · Senior Member

Wish the main stream mfg's would sell larger caliper air rifles. Of course one could argue that companies already make powder burners, but so what? What about a caliber large enough to take deer.

I have seen that website for Quakenbush (I think it's spelt), large bore ag's. But don't those use steel berrings as a projectile?

TONBON · Veteran Member

ALL the ones i've ever seen use lead. with 90+% useing a diablo design.
i've seen a few large caliber(9mm,45,50), pellets that are designed like a traditional bullet. more like a shotgun slug, but no hollow base.
this should help with ballistics. i thought he said the 14 would use a traditional bullet design. like a 22 rimfire shape.
if the target shooters switch to pinfire/.14 caliber, they can say it makes the sport harder. smaller hole to measure. if you are only shooting 10 meters. why not.
I think,, that such a small projectile will never be good at any distance farther than 50 yds, if that.
but then again. check out the new .17 rimfire. this is doing real good.
maybe a couple years old. i might work.
NOT
Mr. Green

i won't buy one.

Jaxom · Senior Member

I kinda got the idea for a larger bore ag, when I was looking at the various brands and types of .22 pellets. One company makes a sabot style pellet. The pellet is actually stuck inside a plastic "cap" that seals the bore. If someone could use this style arrangment with one of the smaller caliber deer hunting rifle rounds, I think that would be a winner!

sniper · Silver Status Member

i know it's been done with rimfire. down to .10 cal. never heard of air. be an interesting study though.

thepaladin · Senior Member

I tried some of the .22 sabot rounds in a couple of my rifles and couldn't get any accuracy out of them. I went with a lower power rifle incase that was the problem, but they were still all over the board. I've read some who reported better results, not me.

They were the RWS hyper velocity I believe.

TONBON · Veteran Member

i'd be curious to see a 9mm bullet w/sabot shot from a 45 or 50 cal. airgun.
that could definitly work.

broommaster2000 · Moderator

You'd need a longer pellet in .14, so you'll probably end up shooting lil' darts. Neutral

thepaladin · Senior Member

Ironicly that's what the hyper volicity pellets looked like. Longer thin steel pellets in plastic sabots.

broommaster2000 · Moderator

I think a Sabot round would be a bit more expensive...

Alstone · Moderator & Site Supporter

The pellet is similar to a .22 rim fire, but longer with a round nose and a slightly tapered back end, it also has I think three rings around the body to engage the rifling.

I'll see if I can get a copy of the article this weekend

Al

thepaladin · Senior Member

http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/pellet.pl?pellet_id=242

http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/pellet.pl?pellet_id=526

Here are some from Pyramyd, I ordered from them, as I said, not sure now if it was the RWS or not.

Alstone · Moderator & Site Supporter