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spanktron9 · Member

Hi everyone,

I've been working on sighting in my father-in-law's Beeman 1074. I've read various things both online and in manuals saying that it requires between 500-1500 shots before accuracy can be judged. I've put between 300 and 500 rounds through it already. Currently, I can't get any groups at all. The rifle will put rounds at 12 yards in about a 5" inch circle around the bullseye. Occasionally it will put 1 or 2 very near each other and then start shooting completely wildly again. I'm lying down and using a rest. I have no problem putting sub-1/2 inch groups together with my Disco. I understand that Springers are more challenging to shoot, but this seems ridiculous! Help!

Slavia · Moderator

Are all the stock screws tight? If you have a scope, is it tight? If you have a scope and open sights, do the open sights work better? Have you tried different kinds of pellets?

If you discover something loose, remember: Blue LocTite is your friend.

Gently swipe at the muzzle crown with a cotton swab. If there are burrs that grab fibers, it might be a candidate for polishing.

spanktron9 · Member

I've tightened all the stock screws, I've cleaned the barrel, and I've checked on the scope. It came with the scope, and has no iron sights. It is really frustrating. I haven't checked the muzzle yet, will do that tonight.

oddtodd · Silver Status Member

You may be flinching without realizing it. I shot my new springer almost 2 weeks exclusively. When I went back to my disco I had a flinch like you wouldn't believe.

Broom had the right idea when he told me to try to see the sight picture all the way through the shot. Finding the proper hold is important too. When I tried firing my storm with a loose grip put it all over the place. When I pulled it tight to my shoulder it shot perfectly. I still haven't figured that one out yet, but I can keep it to a 1/2 inch group at 20 yards.

Just play with it without worrying about accuracy yet. That 1000 pellets is also to break you in too. Cool

Eatamoose · Member

My Beeman 1073 is very "hold sensitive", and you really have to work to find the "sweet spot" you can hold it at to give you the best groups. This is much more pronounced when shooting from a bench rest. I do all my sighting in with the Beeman from a sitting position with my elbows proped on my knees, my left hand open and right in front of the trigger guard, and only two fingers wrapped around the wrist of the stock. I've also found that you can't have a strong cheek to stock weld either, just lightly place your face against the stock just enough to get your sight picture. You want as few points of contact with the stock as you can. It takes a while to get used to, but once you do, it's more consistant.

You might also try changing pellets, springers seem to be picky about ammo in my experience.

koz · Member

Although i am reasonably new to air rifle shooting i must agree with what the others have said regarding pellets.
I was using RWS superdomes on a BSA lighting XL.22. but then I decided to try webleys accupell instead on the grounds that they had been given some seriouly good reviews and the difference has been a very signifficant one.
At 25 yards with RWS i was grouping at around a inch. but with the accupell i am grouping around 1/2 inch and i will have 2-3 pellets go though the same hole.

When I have been reasearching on the interent myself, i noticed that they have also said that around 2500 pellets should ensure that the gun is bedded in well enough to say its as accurat as its going to get.
So i would say just give yourself time to get used to the gun and try some different pellets if things dont improve enough to your saticfaction. Smile

broommaster2000 · Moderator

spanktron9 · Member

Thanks for all the tips, guys. I'll work on breaking myself in. Though with the groups (or lack of) that I am getting. It is hard to know what to correct. I mean, I am literally shooting 2 or 3 inches in ALL directions from the bullseye. It is sad.

spanktron9 · Member

Well, I came home, swapped out the .177 barrel for the .22 and settled in for some shooting. I starting grouping much better right away. Not good groups, 1-1.5 inches, but at least it was grouping. from there, I was able to focus on my technique and dialing the scope in. I was getting to the point where I was consistently in the 9 ring.

Tomorrow, I will dial in further. Thanks again for the help guys.

kanyon · Silver Status Member

I asume the gun is new?
first clean the bore with cotton patchs
run a few though with goo-gone then
a few clean ones till they come out clean.
now start putting pellets though it after about
1000 then think about trying to get it sited correctly.

koz · Member

Nice to hear you have sorted your problem out spanktron. Now you can start and have some fun. Smile

from the barer of usless information +( BSA and AirGun Mag )
Cool

stewartlittle · Member

I have'nt been into springer but for a few months.I've tried Gamo,Crosman,Beeman RS2 .177/.22 barrels,and RWS model 48 .22,took all of them back.The RWS was the best of the bunch,but I still could'nt hit anything with it.

Now for your problem,I did'nt see any where of what pellets you are using.The RS2 I had was getting groups like that in .177,and I think the pellets was the biggest problem.

Some might think different,but DO NOT use Daisy pellets in it.If you are gonna use pellets from a local store like Wal Mart,the Crosman Premier Hollow Points are halfway decent.
I would suggest using a heavy pellet around 8 - 10.5g,like JSB Exact Heavy or Beeman Kodiaks,RWS Superdome or something.Not wadcutters or pointed pellets,but rounded or domed.

I am shooting in the basement right at 15 yards and yesterday got .250'' - .375'' groups were best,but had some out to .500'' and .600''.Those where RWS Superdome got .250'' one time,JSB Express .375'' and Crosman Premier Hollowpoints .375''.Those where the best,but consistant shooting I think I like the JSBs the best,then RWS,CPHPs.
This is with my new R9

super6 · Member

I always clean the barrel of a new gun with J&B bore cleaner with a nylon brush, not bronze, about 20 times back and forth. Then I pull some patches through soaked in GooGone, followed by as many dry patches as needed until they come out clean.

Use a Q-tip in the muzzle end and if it hangs up on any small burrs, make a small cone out of 600 grit sandpaper and use that to remove them. After that, keep trying different pellets until you find one or two that group well and stick to them.

Some guns shoot well with the same hold you would use with a powder burner while others shoot well with a light hold and the gun resting on your open hand just in front of the trigger. Once you get the right pellet and hold, you may find the gun is more accurate than you are. Good luck.

cliffspot · Veteran Member

First of all, you can't rest the gun on the hard surface, use a padded gun case or your hand to support the forend. Hold the gun lightly so it can "do it's thing"....recoil the same way each shot. Changing grip from shot to shot, moving your hand up and down the forend, cheeking the gun with different pressures..positions; these will al make the shot land differently! Cosistency is the key, basic shooting technique and PRACTICE! A springers accuracy doesn't change after the break in...it's the shootability! Smoother action and the trigger is broken in=easier to shoot. BUT! Once you have mastered a springer...you can shoot ANYTHING well! Here's my system for ragged one holers.......

spanktron9 · Member

Thanks again guys. I might not be going back to the RS2/1074 for awhile. My Sumatra just came in the mail and we will be moving out to the country in a few weeks. The RS2 will stay with my father-in-law and my disco and Sumatra will come with me. I can fire those cannons all day and all night and not disturb anyone! Plus I have a barn for still air indoor shooting. Smile