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Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics » New UK Pellet    View previous topic :: View next topic  New UK Pellet   Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:21 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND This brand new pellet from Daystate is the result of a joint development between Daystate and innovative British pellet manufacturer Pax. Daystate was impressed by the Defiant pellet made by Pax, but wanted to improve it for optimum performance in Daystate airguns. They came up with the Rangemaster High Energy. These high quality, domed, lead pellets are subject to a selection process and then pre-lubed to ensure consistency. Tony Belas of Daystate states that these pellets have a better ballistic coefficient than any other pellet available. The shorter length of the pellet allows it to fly flatter and with up to one-third less windage than other well known brands. This Pellet is reputed to deliver twice the energy out to 50 yards than other pellets, also suppost to be very accurate but that is debatable according to local forums. Al _________________   Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:27 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Dang, you don't want a break barrel to fire THAT pellet. (Maybe a sidelever, that is cocked by a Diesel loc.) _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:01 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6930 Location: "Out There" Is that really a pellet display, or some sort of adult-products convention? _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:52 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA To think... I was going to spin a 2" one for paper weight for my desk... _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:21 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Oh dear, now you're going to have to break the record, right? _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:48 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA broommaster2000 wrote: Oh dear, now you're going to have to break the record, right? I would have to my old job at Kubota and use their lathe... _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:24 am Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND AirGunEric wrote: Is that really a pellet display, or some sort of adult-products convention? At $30.00 a box for .177 they have to be exotic. Al. _________________   Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:42 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Without having the pellet in front of me, it looks like the length to width ratio of the model is about 1.2. Using the Greenhill formula relating twist rate to bullet size for a .22 caliber pellet: Twist (inches per turn) = 150 X (Diameter squared)/length Gives an optimal twist rate of 1 turn in 27.5 inches. This seems a little high; for example, my Slavia is 1:18, and my Avanti 853 is 1:21. Are Daystate's twist rates matched to the pellet? _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:43 am yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA Slavia wrote: Without having the pellet in front of me, it looks like the length to width ratio of the model is about 1.2. Using the Greenhill formula relating twist rate to bullet size for a .22 caliber pellet: Twist (inches per turn) = 150 X (Diameter squared)/length Gives an optimal twist rate of 1 turn in 27.5 inches. This seems a little high; for example, my Slavia is 1:18, and my Avanti 853 is 1:21. Are Daystate's twist rates matched to the pellet? Okay Slavia... Since I suck at math... so tell me... What would be the dimensions of a to "Scale" RWS Hobby "wad cutter" .22 cal pellet if it was 1.25" in diameter… I am out of 2” stock and want to turn a “to scale” paper weight… _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:52 am cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 Measure the dimentions of said pellet and then multiply all dimensions by the desired degree of enlargement. You could try different values of multiplication untill you reach the size that you want.   Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:59 am yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA cw wrote: Measure the dimentions of said pellet and then multiply all dimensions by the desired degree of enlargement. You could try different values of multiplication untill you reach the size that you want. I suck at math... I do better by just looking at it and judging the proportions. _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:27 pm cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 Can you provide the dimesions of the pellet of which you speak (type)? I only have Superdomes or I could measure one and give you the dimensions you seek.   Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:19 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Joe - I don't have that particular pellet, but since you are making a decorative piece, here is a .177 RWS Meisterkugeln. The black numbers are actual, and the green (circled) numbers are scaled for a piece of 1.25" stock. You'll have to guess at the hollow in the skirt. At least I hope you're making a decorative piece. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:55 pm cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 What will you turn it out of? 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