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acousticmood · Member

I have a Beeman R9 springer. I didn't get the scoped version cause I wanted to shoot from iron sights for a while. Problem is that the sights are not real visible -

I have a Bushnell Holosight and I wondered if anyone knows if it will stand up to the springer recoil?

Thanks,

broommaster2000 · Moderator

Wah? You got one without Iron Sights?

Because the Weihrauch Iron Sights are among the best on Air Rifles. Neutral

Maybe you have the K version?

I'm not sure if a red dot will hold out on the HW95. I have pretty much no experience with the rifle, sorry... Neutral

acousticmood · Member

I did get the iron sights on the R-9. I just have a hard time getting a sight picture with them - there is no contrasting dots or anything - just steel.

AirGunEric · Site Admin

What's the warranty on the Holosight these days? If it, hypothetically, to break- would Bushnell replace it?

I have no idea if it would hold up behind a springer- but as it really isn't a scope with alot of optics to get damaged, so you're probably O.K.

Alstone · Moderator & Site Supporter

Hi acousticmood
As far as I know the Bushnell Holosight is the same as the Etec Military site and is ok for firearms, so I would have thought it would be ok for a springer.

I think you could hit them with a brick and they will still work, I was thinking of buying one myself a while back, but the price put me off, $600.00 in the UK.

Al

broommaster2000 · Moderator

Slavia · Moderator

One nice thing about a scope is that it's a single plane sighting system - the target and reticle are in focus at the same time. Red dot sights are the same, except you look past the sight and focus on the target. With metallic sights your eye is faced with trying to focus at three different distances - target, front sight, and rear sight. Even young eyes have troubles with that task. Try to focus on the front sight only.

They sell a gadget called an "eye occluder," which is a pinhole that fastens to your glasses. It increases the depth of field and brings all three planes into focus at the same time. Kind of like stopping down a camera lens to f16 or f22. The disadvantage is that your peripheral vision is severely reduced, so it's only good for paper targets that don't move. That, and your kids won't be seen in the same room with "Fatherus of Borg" (personal experience).

Aperture ("peep") sights are an alternative, since your eye is better at aligning concentric circles, even fuzzy ones. This also has the disadvantage of poor peripheral vision, and I guess I would rather spend the money on a scope anyway.

Go to a store that sells plastic models, and they will probably have those little bottles of model paint. You could get a flourescent color and put dots on the sights with a toothpick. Very visible, but not very precise.

Another difficulty with metallic sights is light reflection. It turns the hard straight lines into fuzzy blobs. You can buy "sight black." Or, you could get an ultra-flat black paint and lightly coat the tops of the sights. Or even apply soot with a cotton swab. When I shoot in the basement, there is one light bulb nearby that I unscrew to reduce glare, and I try to illuminate the target as much as possible for contrast.

Or, you could close your eyes and use Zen to become one with the pellet. I'm still working on that, myself.

cliffspot · Veteran Member

Look at the rear sight. There should be a small screw on the BACK facing you as you sight down the gun. This holds the rear blade on the sight. If you take it out, you should be able to rotate the rear sight plate to a bigger notch! i believe it has 4 different notches to choose form. Using iron sights is something you have to learn. That white dot stuff wass introduced in the late 70's to early 80's for pistols for fast sight alignment. Bullseye shooters use all black sights EXCLUSIVELY! The old hunters used a gold bead on the front sight only. Remeber, focus ONLY on the front sight! Takes some time getting used to it , but you will adjust. Practice and practice some more! OR get a Beeman or Mendoza peep rear site, had one on my R1 then put it on my HW77 until my darn eyes gave out! The dots are best on handguns. If you can't see the front sight, get some glasses or put a dot ONLY on the front sight. Good luck!
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acousticmood · Member

cliffspot · Veteran Member

Progressive lenses are not too good for iron sight shooting. Get a good red dot if you don't want a regular scope. But a good scope is your best bet! All the paint in the world isn't gonna help! And your technique of focus on target then front sight then rear is not proper. Iron sight shooting WILL have the rear sight and target blurred! Only the front sight will be focused. Good young eyes will reduce the blur....but I think guys like you and I are WAYYYYYY past that brother! I myself am fighting the purchase of bifocals.....hardheaded (tightwad?!?!) Scot that I am! LOL!

acousticmood · Member