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Slavia · Moderator

I'm ready to tear into the guts of the G1, and I have a couple of philosophical questions:

1. The gun has an "anti-beartrap" mechanism. When I cock a springer, one hand remains on the barrel (or cocking arm) until it is loaded and closed. The other hand is either seating a pellet or resting away from the trigger. Some of my guns have it, and some don't. Is there any real advantage to keeping that mechanism?

2. The gun has an articulated cocking arm linkage. The horizontal part of the linkage is supported against the stock by a roller on one side only. I've seen mods with rollers on both sides to prevent twisting. Is this a good thing, or just a frivolous waste of effort?

broommaster2000 · Moderator

I think a bear trap mechanism is only used on side and under levers.

On your second question I'd say: Do you want your cocking arm to move sideways or not? I guess that's what those mods are for.

23ib0d0n · Moderator

The 'anti-beartrap' in this case is a trigger lockout device that keeps the sear from being tripped until the barrel is in the proper position.

1) I don't think the 'anti-beartrap' mechanism can be disabled without replacement parts that permit the trigger to disengage the sear.

2) Don't see any advantage to changes of the roller assembly.

Keep us informed of progress. Got a Quest that could benefit if you happen to uncover some new and interesting tricks. Twisted Evil

broommaster2000 · Moderator

Hey J, you're not thinking big bore on this one are you? Mr. Green

AirGunEric · Site Admin

J.'s diagram is of the Gamo units, which are the "grandfather" of the Quest/Phantom/G1's etc.

The anti-beartrap lever can be removed without causing the sear release to stop functioning on the Crosman units. however, it does help a bit to keep the cocking lever from wobbling too too much- i.e. helps cut down noise if the gun gets shaken. Why you'd be shaking the gun I have no idea- but whatever. No real reason to remove it however.

And adding an additional roller for the cocking arm does seem a bit frivolous- I don't know if it would gain you anything or not- my experience with the B18/Quest/G1 line has been that 'twist' has not been much of an issue, but occasional grinding of the cocking arm tab on the cocking slot in the tube has been if the cocking arm moves a bit too much (prior to cocking it- i.e. misalignment prior to even breaking the barrel). Would an additional roller eliminate this? Maybe? I'd love to know- but I've not got the time to try it myself.