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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Airgun Smithing » homemade grips... Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  homemade grips...   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:00 pm naynay Member Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 34 Location: bellingham,wa I am wondering if anyone out there has made their own custom grips and has advise for me on this. I have a Daisy 747, and ended up using both "flat" sides of the grip- i had purchased the left handed grips for it. it works ok, but my hands are small, I'd like a better more contured grip that fits my hand, and i want wood grips to replace the plastic. It seems simple to me, basic woodworking- am I wrong? _________________ "Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." - John Wooden -   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:05 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND Hi naynay Welcome to AirGunHome, quite a few people on here make there own grips, I have only made a couple and it's not to difficult, you need some decent wood and something like a dremmel tool to shape it. I'm sure someone will be around soon to give you a better idea on how to go on. Al _________________   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:10 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA I have found that a computer scanner helps. I put the grip frame right on the scanner (flat) and take a "picture" of it. Then you use software to invert the photo, and print it out. Check the dimensions between two convenient points on both the gun and the printout to be sure it is printing at 100% of original, and adjust as necessary (say, 99% or 101%) so the printout is exactly the same as the actual piece. Then double face tape the printout to the back side of the wood, and you have all the screw holes and rebates painlessly located on the wood. Do all the mounting screws, locator pin holes, and rebates first. Get the big ugly piece of wood to fit the gun, and then you can assemble/disassemble to your heart's content until you get it shaped right. I like to replace slotted head screws with socket head screws because they stand up to repeated use without showing the wear. Do a trial run with a cheap wood scrap before you work on "good" wood. The rehearsal is worth the extra time. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:58 pm naynay Member Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 34 Location: bellingham,wa Hey, thanks, good tips. I do have a dremel, which i plan to use, and i was thinkin the getting it to fit while the wood is still ugly plan was good too- that way no heartbreak of getting it Perfect, only to have it not fit. the scanner idea is awesome- i was just going to draw around the grips- your plan way better. I like the look of walnut- is it hard to work with? any wood choice do's and don'ts? and i Will do a dry run on a hunk of scrap. thanks a lot. all appreciated. _________________ "Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." - John Wooden -   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:48 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Walnut is wonderful. It machines easily, unlike some others (like maple or oak) where you wind up burning your way through the project. I never stain walnut, since it has a nice hue all by itself. My favorite is Birchwood Casey Tru Oil (from Walmart). Five coats will penetrate and look decent; use more to fill in the pores and to add gloss. Apply each coat just to "wet" the wood. Rub out each coat with 0000 steel wool. The last coat gets rubbed out with automotive paint rubbing compound. Use paste wax to finish it off. Since you are contemplating pistol grips, you don't need much wood. Go to the nearest Salvation Army or secondhand store and look for old trophies and awards with walnut pieces. The Dremel with a 1/2" drum sander is great. Finish sand with 3/4" strips of sandpaper pulled through under your thumb like a mini belt sander. I don't have checkering files, so I use stippling. A sharp center punch bounced up and down will do the job. So will one of those ball-end Dremel bits. I do borders by first scribing the line with a knife. Then you take a broken Dremel abrasive cutoff wheel and sand down into the scribed guide line (by hand - not under power). Keep us posted on your progress. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego! homemade grips   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:52 am naynay Member Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 34 Location: bellingham,wa Nice work Slavia- that gun is truly Beautiful. thanks for all the advice, i will definitely keep you posted on my progress- and look for an old walnut trophy at my local thrift shops. i am excited, and glad to be a part of this site, and get such good advice. thanks. _________________ "Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." - John Wooden -   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:23 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Hey Slav, I think that aesthetically, you might add a Steel Breech. It looks good as it is, but a little less plastig is always better, right? _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:43 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: you might add a Steel Breech. You see, Broom, Minnesota is an iron ore producing state. With all those iron deposits up north I was afraid a steel breech would always want to point north and be less accurate. Oh wait, this isn't the B.S. category. The truth is that the 2240 was my first project, and I did it blind. No forum to help, no knowledge of upgrade parts. I figured at the time that anything I wanted I would have to make. It turned out O.K., but the downside was that I started looking at AG's as tinkering platforms, and now I have a queue of projects waiting patiently (everybody here knows how that goes). The 2240 works well, so I just left the plastic alone. Maybe someday I'll be as prolific as rickyjr1954. By the way, naynay - I thought of another thing. To cut the little notches, grooves, etc. on the underside of the grip I use the drill press as an overarm router. I use a Dremel side cutter but, and lock the quill so it won't move up and down. I fasten the work piece to a larger piece of plywood so I can keep my fingers out of the way. The drill press doesn't spin as fast as a Dremel, so feed rate has to be slower. You can freehand this way with a fair amount of precision. Do wear safety glasses, and do wear a dust mask. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego! Crosman 13xx & 22xx Steel Breechs   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:22 am yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA I found a great supplier for Crosman 13xx & 22xx steel breeches. He even has Highrise Breeches for bull barrels. Extended Brass Bolt/Handle. Robert does nice work! http://www.rjmachineshop.com/4436.html Future project target gun is going to be a 22xx. Just haven't yet decided which model to start out with.... I am leaning towards a 2250 standard since almost all the parts will be replaced. _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:51 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Slavia wrote: I was afraid a steel breech would always want to point north and be less accurate. Rich! Slavia wrote: The truth is that the 2240 was my first project, and I did it blind. No forum to help, no knowledge of upgrade parts. I figured at the time that anything I wanted I would have to make. It turned out O.K., but the downside was that I started looking at AG's as tinkering platforms, and now I have a queue of projects waiting patiently (everybody here knows how that goes). The 2240 works well, so I just left the plastic alone. Maybe someday I'll be as prolific as rickyjr1954. That's why I said "might". Don't get me wrong, I like the gun. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:45 pm naynay Member Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 34 Location: bellingham,wa well, I appreciate all the good advice, really glad I can proceed without having to do it blindly- which i would have done- thats the kind of gal I am. But I have also finally reached the level of maturity where I'm not afraid to ask the so called "stupid" question, so I get to reap the rewards of getting good guidance. thanks to all, esp slav. _________________ "Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." - John Wooden -   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:12 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: That's why I said "might". "Might" my eye. I'm sure your sinister intent was to make me hang my (virtual) head in shame over having a PLASTIC breech, and to make me think about a steel one. Well, your evil scheme has borne fruit. Now I can't get the idea out of my head. Only kidding. But the idea does suddenly seem attractive. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:12 pm naynay Member Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 34 Location: bellingham,wa Don't you hate it when that happens...i get so consumed by these sort of things- I think they call it "obsession"- but hey, I can live with it- makes for a more interesting life. _________________ "Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." - John Wooden -   Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:52 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Slavia wrote: Quote: That's why I said "might". "Might" my eye. I'm sure your sinister intent was to make me hang my (virtual) head in shame over having a PLASTIC breech, and to make me think about a steel one. Well, your evil scheme has borne fruit. Now I can't get the idea out of my head. Only kidding. But the idea does suddenly seem attractive. Mu ha ha ha ha! The muscles in my jaws are hurtin'. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:55 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Uh, one time is enough Joe. _________________ BIG GAP homemade grips...     Air Gun Home Forum Index » Airgun Smithing You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 5 Hours   Page 1 of 3   Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Main Forums----------------AirGunHome Q&AGeneral Air Gun Questions and TopicsPicture GalleryTarget Shooting: Casual, Fun and CompetitionHunting, Pest Control, Varminting People/Events/Airgun Issue Discussion----------------Introduce YourselfThe BS TopicClubs/Events/Regional/Political Airgun Issues Maintenance, Modification and Reviews----------------RiflesPistolsAntique, Collector and Novelty AirgunsBB GunsPellets/AmmoOpticsAccessoriesAirgun Smithing Buy, Sell or Trade Forums----------------For SaleWant to Buy   Note: If you are seeing "Please enter your username and password to log in." 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