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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:02 am |
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| thedeerhunter19 |
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| hey guys just bought a beeman silver bear 1026 nice little gun. i have shot a few squrilles with it and was wondering if it would kill a rabbit.also it has a horriable trigger pull does anyone know of any fixes or would i have to send it to a custom airgun guy. if so anybody have a good reference. thanks everyone |
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:09 am |
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:13 am |
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| thedeerhunter19 |
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| sorry no i have a digital camera but we both ended up in a river trying to land a catfish so it only takes pics cant upload directly. go to canadian tires website they have pics of it there |
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:29 pm |
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| AirGunEric |
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The Beeman guns of the 1xxx variety are their "Made in China" specials- i.e. not exactly high-end. Typically, they are fairly accurate- but modifications get complicated as Beeman won't sell anyone parts for them, and power modifications are typically difficult.
Here's a model of the same series, the 1040, and what was required to be done to get it better: http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=59&highlight=beeman
The 1026 could likely use a good trigger deburr and polish to make it slightly smoother, but beyond that, it's not worth the work typically to try and get much else out of it- i.e. just not economically viable.
For shooting rabbits- I'd be wary, it's a .177 cal gun outputting less than 500fps. If you wanted to try- get some heavy pellets and be at a relatively close range (heavier, like the Crosman Ultra Magnums: http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=50 ) which are about 50% heavier than an average .177 pellet.
If you try at close range with a heavy pellet and the rabbit doesn't die, quickly, I think you can forget about hunting them in the future with that gun. |
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:30 pm |
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| I use a Marksman 2004 on rabbits in the garden. It isn't much more than 400 FPS, but they keel right over. Of course ethically you do have to get in close enough to take head shots, which isn't always easy. |
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:52 pm |
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_________________ I done been assisted by the trees and rivers. Never needed any minister to figure my divinity. |
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:36 pm |
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| AirGunEric |
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| Rogerflat wrote: |
| 400 fps kills rabbits? |
Slow it down-
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| It isn't much more than 400 FPS, but they keel right over. Of course ethically you do have to get in close enough to take head shots, which isn't always easy. |
If you look over Slavia's statement- slightly over 400fps and with a head shot. Don't even think about trying this and posting up how you hit a rabbit 10 times and it still hopped away. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:58 am |
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| Don't even think about trying this and posting up how you hit a rabbit 10 times and it still hopped away. |
Even I wouldn't try to kill something with 400 fps. Considering at twice that velocity, they often still get away. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:47 pm |
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I spend weeks in the spring watching the rabbits' movements around the neighborhood, so by mid-summer I know where they will be and when. I practice several times per week, so I know what my capabilities are and where the gun will hit given range and wind. There are several hiding places in my yard (in the hedge, under the canoe, between garages, etc.), and I position myself there and wait patiently. When they come from behind cover the range is 5-7 yards, and I only take head shots. I don't take running shots. I put a second round into them just to be sure.
I had one rabbit go about 5 feet before it dropped; the rest expired on the spot.
Or so I thought. Now that I know this isn't possible, I shall cease forthwith. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:00 pm |
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| I had an old 400 fps co2 pistol bb repeater and I popped a robin from out my buddies living room window at about 8 feet. It fell out of the tree and when I went out to finish it off, it was running away. I emptied the clip into its back and it it kept running the whole time just absorbing the bb's. It died shortly thereafter, but I never tried to hunt with a low powered gun again. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:24 pm |
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| Why shoot protected migratory birds? There are plenty of pest birds to shoot to avoid molesting beneficial birds . . . |
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:29 pm |
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| It was like 14 years ago dude. I didn't know any better back then. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:18 pm |
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| AirGunEric |
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| Slavia wrote: |
| ...Now that I know this isn't possible, I shall cease forthwith. |
Who said that? If you've been doing it, you've been doing it. Roger has had some accuracy issues in the past- so my suggestion was that he avoid trying such a thing right now. |
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:02 am |
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My apologies for that touch of sarcasm. It was indigestion from eating my own cooking. If I leave dental floss on the kitchen counter the cockroaches hang themselves.
It has got me to thinking, though. I chronographed the 2004 today: Ave. (of 10)=409 FPS, S.D.=4.84, Min.=401 FPS, Max.=415 FPS. This is with Crosman Premier hollow points, which I believe are 7.9 grains. This gives about 2.9 FPE. In another thread it is suggested that you need 1 FPE per pound of animal. So I'll weigh the next rabbit I get and see how close it comes to 3 pounds.
I may need to chase them around the yard a bit until they lose enough weight to qualify. |
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:48 am |
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| I have a feeling that when you go hunting it's better to have to much footpounds then to little. I don't think the 1077 was ment for hunting purposes to begin with anyway. Real hunting rifles are often single shot. |
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