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Air Gun Home Forum Index » BB Guns » "BB Gun" forum (this one). Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  "BB Gun" forum (this one).   Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:36 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6908 Location: "Out There" This forum has been created to address any/all questions related to BB Guns. As .177 (4.5mm) BB guns are a form of airgun, they loosely fit the context of AirGunHome.com, but are not airguns-proper due to their more toy-like nature. Also note: AirSoft or SoftAir guns have no place at AirGunHome.com at this point in time. While they technically use a form of compressed gas or air to shoot, 6mm plastic BBs used for non-hunting or serious target-shooting applications have their own world and forums dedicated to such activity. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:00 pm aircube Veteran Member Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 261 Ha, maybe it should be called the pellet-gun forum then??? Air-Gun certainly implies all three. my brief foray with an airsoft pistol convinced me that its among the ranks of water pistols and dart guns and is pretty much a waste of time.   Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:38 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6908 Location: "Out There" The problems we have with BB guns is that a) most aren't very "adjustable", they are a sort of as-is type of proposition (there are some exceptions)- thus modification is not really a relevant factor b) by their very nature with smoothbore barrels and such they are inferior to proper pellet-shooters in respect to hitting targets c) anyone who goes hunting with round steel .177 BBs from a gun maybe putting out 5fpe needs a swift kick in the butt But- BB guns are often an "intro" to the world of airgunning. Most of us probably own at least one BB-only gun- whether it be a Crosman 2100 or a Walther PPK/S- but they still really are an "entry-level" product most often bought by the younger shooter. We don't want to discourage potential airgunners, but at the same time we don't want to be answering questions like "how can I get 1000fps out of my Daisy Model 15 pistol" as the question is a dead-end. So- an area specific to BB guns seemed to be the best solution. As for airsoft- that really is a completely different scenario. It is intended as a fun, shoot-your-buddy sort of activity which should not be confused with airguns, lest someone think that a .22 cal lead pellet shot out of an Airforce Condor is equivalent to shooting a 6mm plastic BB out of a Crosman Pulse R75. People end up dead that way. So: BB guns, OK in this area. Paintball and Airsoft/SoftAir- find the right forum- but it's not AirGunHome.com _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:56 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA Eric, Did I sense some sort of a challenge to make a 1000 fps bb gun? Can I make it full auto? he he he.... _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:49 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA I think this is a good idea, and I agree with Eric's reasoning completely. I also agree that airsoft (and paintball) are too far afield from our focus to be considered on this forum. Not to put them (or their adherents) down, but there are other venues for that sort of thing. Another good reason for this topic is that there are serious airgunners out there that collect BB guns (perhaps not to shoot). There is a guy down the street from me that has several Daisy Model 25's, and there are many more like him. And yes, there are diabolo flingers that own BB guns: _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:03 am aircube Veteran Member Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 261 I dunno, they are ALL toys to me. Some may be more serious than others and some may be "adult toys"(roger and sniper....no comments please) , but toys just the same. I agree about keeping the BB's guns on here because of the idea of them being a stepping stone for kids to get into pellet rifles and pistols. Personally I have never really liked BB guns, even as a kid. Having tried out Airsoft for the first time the other day, I realize that its even worse. no accuracy, no power, not sure why they exsist at all when theres paintball for wargames??? BUT, a lot of parents ARE going to start their youn'uns off these days with airsoft because they are preceived to be safer, if they like it they will progress to pellet rifles. That may leave these kids out of the loop. Not that I personally care about which forums are allowed on here   Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:13 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Over here, we teach kids to shoot with these: _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:22 am Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AusjCgELT0 _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:48 am yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA Crosman140 wrote: heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AusjCgELT0 Uncle 140, can I have one for Christmas? I've been a good boy. _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:49 am Rogerflat Silver Status Member Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 2051 If you think this thing is a toy that can't be used for hunting, pop on over to the hunting forum and check out what it does to birds. It ain't your daddy's red ryder, that's for sure. _________________ I done been assisted by the trees and rivers. Never needed any minister to figure my divinity.   Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:34 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA yourdaddyjoe wrote: Crosman140 wrote: heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AusjCgELT0 Uncle 140, can I have one for Christmas? I've been a good boy. Sure sonny, just remember...this thing really COULD shoot your eye out... _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:12 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6908 Location: "Out There" yourdaddyjoe wrote: Eric, Did I sense some sort of a challenge to make a 1000 fps bb gun? Can I make it full auto? he he he.... I knew there was a smartass around here somewhere... _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:02 pm sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho yourdaddyjoe wrote: Crosman140 wrote: heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AusjCgELT0 Uncle 140, can I have one for Christmas? I've been a good boy. _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:02 am Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA sniper wrote: yourdaddyjoe wrote: Crosman140 wrote: heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AusjCgELT0 Uncle 140, can I have one for Christmas? I've been a good boy. If you've been good, you each get one. Looks like I'll be keeping my money in my savings account. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:31 pm radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA Slavia wrote: I think this is a good idea, and I agree with Eric's reasoning completely.[...] +1. I think BB guns need a place, too. I love my Daisy 95B just to play with as an adult sort of...well I don't want to call it a toy, because they are all dangerous if mis-used, but let's say a relaxing thing. It has also been good (for me, at least) for stinging raccoons in the butt without hurting them. Just to get them to move along. (I personally do not hunt raccoons with less than a crossbow or firearm...but I know that some airguns will do the job.) But with its ~250 fps, I put on safety glasses and just shoot easy and cheaply at a soda can I have hanging from a tree with a good backstop. Very relaxing. 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