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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Hunting, Pest Control, Varminting » Question on what birds are considered "pests" Goto page Previous  1, 2    View previous topic :: View next topic    Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:59 pm KyPlinker Member Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 19 Location: Kentucky Two in the chest, one in the head. Dead is dead. _________________ -Crosman 1077 Polymer Stock Version -Crosman Pumpmaster 760 -Obligatory Daisy Red Ryder   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:07 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Yeah, but was it dead with the first shot? _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:20 pm KyPlinker Member Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 19 Location: Kentucky Forgive me, my overly sarcastic nature is taking hold. _________________ -Crosman 1077 Polymer Stock Version -Crosman Pumpmaster 760 -Obligatory Daisy Red Ryder How Many Shots???   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:31 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA Birds & Lizzards - 1 shot... Snakes - 1 + A head shot to make sure... Limb Rats... 1-2. I usualy knock them down with the 1st and then a head shot to finish the job. I have never had to chase one down to put it out of it's misery... Target practice is betwen 35 & 45 yards with a 6" target. 50 yards is how deep my property is in the back yard. I won't snipe anything biger than a wood pecker past 20 yards. As in my earlier Then again I am 40 now and my brothers had me plinking since before I was 8.   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:22 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands KyPlinker wrote: Forgive me, my overly sarcastic nature is taking hold. It's just that we don't really like amateur "snipers" around here. If this doesn't apply to you, then there is no need for sarcasm at all. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:04 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands There seemed to be a bit of a misunderstanding here, I mixed up users and would like to apologise to that. Just keep shooting at the right and legal stuff, and be sure and confident in what you are doing. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:14 pm KyPlinker Member Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 19 Location: Kentucky Mistakes happen man, your fine. Yeah, im almost positive that what we have around here are starlings, (they come and go in flocks, i was out birdwatching yesterday just to see exactly what they were, and the actual song birds leave as soon as the starlings come in). Im going to get some more practice to improve my aim, (Im not confident i can hit anything as well as i could with my old 760, im just out of practice i guess), and then ill "take a shot" at them, pun intended. Have a good one gentlemen. _________________ -Crosman 1077 Polymer Stock Version -Crosman Pumpmaster 760 -Obligatory Daisy Red Ryder   Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:00 pm craigfperry Member Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 57 23ib0d0n wrote: Starlings are considered a predator in most states of the US this is new to me, what do they hunt?   Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:08 pm 23ib0d0n Moderator Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 757 craigfperry wrote: this is new to me, what do they hunt? http://www.stanford.edu/group/stanfordbirds/text/essays/European_Starlings.html female starlings are known to dump their eggs in the active nests of other females. Starlings are now ubiquitous, out-competing other such cavity nesters Alot of folks that have seen them in action will call them 'razor bills' since they decimate an occupied nest in mere moments . . .   Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:18 pm craigfperry Member Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 57 ok got it, i didn't know running other birds off makes them predators. where i hunt pedetory birds are protected, thats why i asked.   Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:30 pm 23ib0d0n Moderator Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 757 Sturnus vulgaris is not a native species and they kill cavity dwelling birds as well as destroy eggs, then they'll leave behind eggs that overwhelm the host parents. In europe they're more sedate, but in North America they have almost no competition . . . Same goes for Passer domesticus . . .   Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:44 pm thepaladin Senior Member Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 930 Location: TN USA Back to the original question, I'd suggest you see if you can't find asome listed on your state web sight. In TN there are some pest birds listed (starlings, English sparrow a few others). That way you'll be safe. I have a 1077. I might use it on sparrows and small birds. I'd probably want something more for larger birds etc., though I know the gun will do the job with a good hit, you're probably hitting around 6 or 7 footpounds of energy ( http://extorian.co.uk/shooting/pellets.html). That will do the job ( http://www.beemans.net/field%20use.htm), but I like a little margine. _________________ "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)   Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:21 am derekmcminn New Member Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 3 Location: Kommunist Kalifornia broommaster2000 wrote: The 1077 is not a hunting rifle. It doesn't matter if you have an AG that shoots at twice the speed of sound if you can't hit the broad side of the barn. I have taken more pigeons and squirrels with my Daisy Powerline 880 at 8 pumps than any other AG. Location, location, location. _________________ Crosman 1077AS Daisy 22SG Daisy 880 Crosman 2250B Crosman 1377C Chinese B1, B2, B3, QB-57   Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:07 pm thepaladin Senior Member Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 930 Location: TN USA No the 1077 isn't a hunting rifle, but it would take rodents and small birds. That was my only answer to our friend, I then advised him to get another rifle. It's possible, believe it or not to, as they say, "disagree, without being disagreeable". A lot of shooters come here I assume many are new to our sport and don't know which rifle to choose. It costs us nothing to be polite about it. _________________ "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." 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