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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Rifles » Benjamin Trail np Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Benjamin Trail np   Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:18 pm tfb4me New Member Joined: 12 Nov 2015 Posts: 8 I live in Canada, ontario to be exact..Anyway I bought the Benjamin Trail Nitro Piston. The one I bought shoots at 495 FPS. The same rifle in USA shoots at almost 900. Whats the difference between the 2? I do have my PAL so will modifying this rifle be against the law in Canada?   Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:17 pm Robw Veteran Member Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Posts: 441 It probably has a vented piston. So plugging the vent hole in the stock piston or putting in a nonvented piston should get it up to a usable speed. _________________ Getting in a rush only slows you down. Reflect Jesus Christ-Not your surroundings.   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:39 am tfb4me New Member Joined: 12 Nov 2015 Posts: 8 Cool Ill have to look for a breakdown and see what it takes to get this done   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:17 am AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6908 Location: "Out There" The gas strut in the "detuned" version also has a lower fill pressure. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:23 pm tfb4me New Member Joined: 12 Nov 2015 Posts: 8 AirGunEric wrote: The gas strut in the "detuned" version also has a lower fill pressure. Where do I find the parts to modifiy this gun? In Canada? Also I would like to see a break down of this one to usderstand how it comes apart   Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:20 am AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6908 Location: "Out There" Any springer disassembly guide will work, there is nothing particularly different about the Trail- it is the same platform as the Crosman Quest, Phantom, the BAM B18/B19 and so on. For parts to bring the power up in Canada: http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/product_info.php/benjamin-trailcrosman-nitro-venomlegacy-shockey-repair-kit-p-837 However, under Canadian law, you would be creating a "firearm" out of things- which requires a license (legally-speaking). A good/almost required upgrade is the trigger: http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/product_info.php/gtx-gen-ii-trigger-for-b18crosmangamo-and-more-p-242 to replace the sloppy factory unit. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:14 pm Robw Veteran Member Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Posts: 441 Yes. The OEM trigger is very hard to be accurate with. Also, the GTX II trigger is far superior to the Charley tuna one. _________________ Getting in a rush only slows you down. Reflect Jesus Christ-Not your surroundings.   Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:54 am toadmyster223 Senior Member Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 501 Location: Fayette Nam, PA Haha fighting the trigger in my Titan has made me a much better shooter. I've thought about an upgrade, but I think it would take half the fun out of my gun. Re: Benjamin Trail np   Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:03 am dcw Member Joined: 30 Oct 2015 Posts: 18 Location: SoCal tfb4me wrote: I live in Canada, ontario to be exact..Anyway I bought the Benjamin Trail Nitro Piston. The one I bought shoots at 495 FPS. The same rifle in USA shoots at almost 900. Whats the difference between the 2? I do have my PAL so will modifying this rifle be against the law in Canada? is it 177? or 22? i have the 22 and after installing all new seals, honing the cylinder and installing custom brass pivot washers, it chronos only 660 fps using crosman premier HP pellets...even that would put you over the canadian reg of 12 fpe. my point? i don't believe any 'advertised' fps by manufacturers _________________ never squat when wearing spurs---will rogers   Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:31 am Mentolio Veteran Member Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 207 Location: Sadly, New Jersey Dcw: you may have a gotten a (new) bad seal, it has happened to me. My .22 Trail NP is pushing CP 14.3 domes at an average of almost 748 FPS, that with a loose, crappy barrel. Might want to check your seal and make sure it didn't get cut going back in. I find it's usually safe to cut Crosman velocity claims by at least 200 FPS (.177), usually more (in .22).   Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:06 pm tfb4me New Member Joined: 12 Nov 2015 Posts: 8 Wow lots of great replies here..I managed to find a breakdown of the American rifle. Id love to see the exact same breakdown for the Canadian version, that way I could understand what parts to order. Like I said before I do have my PAL or FAC so I wont be breaking any sort of laws.Thanks to all for what info they have provided so far. Funny thing is I just setup my trigger and I have it firing right at the wall right where I like it. So I doubt ill change much there   Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:13 pm garththomas Veteran Member Joined: 12 Jan 2012 Posts: 165 Location: Ontario, Canada Just order the kit from Scopes and Ammo it's all there so you won't go wrong and its good to have spare seals if you don't need to replace them right away. _________________ QB57 Backyard Sweeper   Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:34 pm Mentolio Veteran Member Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 207 Location: Sadly, New Jersey Sorry man, I read your post but somehow didn't absorb the part about you being in Canada. I guess the velocities you're getting are about right for a 12 ftlb gun?   Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:51 pm tfb4me New Member Joined: 12 Nov 2015 Posts: 8 garththomas wrote: Just order the kit from Scopes and Ammo it's all there so you won't go wrong and its good to have spare seals if you don't need to replace them right away. Awesome..Someone provided the link above but the first time i clicked on it, it didnt work. It worked this time..Sweet, you guys rock, and thanks a TON! http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/product_info.php/benjamin-trailcrosman-nitro-venomlegacy-shockey-repair-kit-p-837 Going to order this kit sometime next week! Sweet   Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:53 pm tfb4me New Member Joined: 12 Nov 2015 Posts: 8 Mentolio wrote: Sorry man, I read your post but somehow didn't absorb the part about you being in Canada. I guess the velocities you're getting are about right for a 12 ftlb gun? Ya somewhere around that..They dont really say other then 495 fps. 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