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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:00 pm Reply with quote
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how effective can it be? how many fps does the pistol have to be? and what's the most effective type of pellet for this?

i'm talking like a bedside pistol, not a "walk around the streets with it in your pocket" pistol.

i know it sounds stupid, but i also know i can't be the only one who's ever thought of it before. so i wanna hear it from the experts.... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:00 pm Reply with quote
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It is stupid, and is likely to get you killed long before it becomes useful for "self defense".

Just being direct here- it is a bad idea, plain and simple. Do a search on the forum here for "self defense" and see what pops up to get more details as to the "why's" on this.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:16 pm Reply with quote
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AirGunEric wrote:
It is stupid, and is likely to get you killed long before it becomes useful for "self defense".
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What he said....

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:17 pm Reply with quote
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Using my IZH 46M with 7gr pellet you are talking 3.2 FPE compared to 284 FPE with a FNP USG .45 acp shooting a 200gr bullet (using my own chrono results for both). That's a big difference in knock down power...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:27 pm Reply with quote
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It is stupid, and is likely to get you killed long before it becomes useful for "self defense".

Yes.

Assuming that this is a serious question, it betrays a lack of familiarity with both airguns and firearms. Get some training before keeping any kind of gun in your nightstand. Contact the NRA, talk to a local gun shop, join a local gun club, etc. Ask if there are classes available.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:27 am Reply with quote
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I keep a Desert Eagle .50 cal in my bedside safe. An air pistol will only get you killed.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:18 pm Reply with quote
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The biggest draw back to using an air gun for self defense is the lack of power. The average airgun for hunting can kill a mouse/rat or a rabbit but they would not slow down an angry human but would probably just make them more angry, let alone a human on drugs which sometimes a .38 powder burner will not stop. Now they make some high powered high caliber air rifles for hunting large game but they are expensive and slower to fire than a powder burner and I am not sure if even one of them could stop a human without a very accurate shot.

So like the others have said it is a bad idea unless you think you could stop an intruder by stabbing them with a plastic straw instead of a large hunting knife.

I guess you could use a airrifle as a club. That would work better than shooting someone with the average air gun.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:42 pm Reply with quote
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I notice the original poster has not come back after his initial post- perhaps he didn't really want an answer (?)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:16 pm Reply with quote
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Or he might have thought hey I didn't come here to be attacked. When I read the replies to the post I kind of felt sorry for the OP. That is why I tried to give some reasoning to why it is a bad idea just in case they were serious about their question and completely new to airguns.

Also they may have read the replies without logging in and decided not to reply.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:36 pm Reply with quote
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Could be- but it's hard not to jump on a really really bad idea with a firm "don't do it". In this case- I think direct was the way to go- if I've learned one thing- if someone is genuinely looking for an answer- the simpler and more direct it is, the better off they'll be- especially if it could be a potentially life-threatening activity.

"Can I shoot myself in the eye with a BB and not go blind?"

"NO."

"Would it be wise to eat lead pellets?"

"Absolutely not."

and so on...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:07 pm Reply with quote
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Guess the real question is" if someone shot ya in the face with a .177 pellet traveling at 600 to 700 fpm, would you still want to break into their house?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:28 am Reply with quote
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if someone shot me with a pellet that would be reason for me to pull my 9mm and return the favor
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:51 am Reply with quote
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Go with a .357 Mag,and 125gr. semi-jacketed hollow points....There's always plenty of air behind that combination... Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:10 am Reply with quote
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ZipSnipe wrote:
Guess the real question is" if someone shot ya in the face with a .177 pellet traveling at 600 to 700 fpm, would you still want to break into their house?


Unless someone rings your doorbell and you have gun in hand already- this is likely going to be inapplicable 99.999% of the time.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:55 am Reply with quote
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Pot of boiling water probably would be more effective than an air pistol unless perhaps it were a high capacity full-auto.

AirGunEric wrote:
Unless someone rings your doorbell and you have gun in hand already- this is likely going to be inapplicable 99.999% of the time.

True that. I'm in the minority there though, as I usually have a gun in my pocket and a bigger one by the bed next to the flashlight. (I walk the dog in the woods a couple times a day, and usually just keep the gat with me rather than hassle with locking it away.)

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