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The QB78 is now a repeater. 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:36 am Reply with quote
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Forgive me if this is already old news but I was just at Archer Airguns and found this gem:

http://www.archerairguns.com/QB78-repeater-s/80.htm

I just might get this instead of the "plain" QB78 when they release it.

Can't wait... Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:17 am Reply with quote
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It's been coming for a long time now! Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:21 am Reply with quote
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How long? I wonder how much it will be when it's released.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:53 pm Reply with quote
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Alstone wrote:
It's been coming for a long time now! Rolling Eyes

Al


I was just going to type that! Then I scrolled down and saw Al's post...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:43 am Reply with quote
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So right now they are just teasing us? That's not nice....
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According to Archers it will be available in a couple of months, but no price yet. We shall see ?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:43 pm Reply with quote
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I want one so bad!!! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:11 am Reply with quote
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whm1974 wrote:
I want one so bad!!! Crying or Very sad


Never a truer word spoken "BAD".

The thing is that the quality of QBís varies and you could get a bad barrel which is not unusual, some have bad rifling, rough bores or the hole off centre, also I have seen the rear sight holes drilled though to the bore, bent bolts, damaged seals etc and Archerís are no different to any other supplier, I have had barrels from them that were not fit to poke the fire with.

If I were you I would buy the gun first from a supplier that checks the quality, or one that you can visit and see what you are buying, then buy the breach unit separately if it ever appears.

But donít get me wrong the QB in good condition is a cracking gun for the price, and with a tune it is difficult to better for the price.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:58 am Reply with quote
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Archerís are no different to any other supplier, I have had barrels from them that were not fit to poke the fire with.


I thought Archer was one of the better suppliers. So who is a good one?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:59 am Reply with quote
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In North America, there are few sellers of the QB line.

Archer may be one of the very few in the US, there is one primary seller in Canada ( www.scopesandammo.com ), and a couple other vendors with old inventory still on their shelves.

The issues Al mentions have mostly been eliminated- at least on the QB78D's, AR2078 units built in the last year- but two things that do pop up are the occasional mis-aligned tube holes (i.e. the transfer port hole on top and the valve screw hole on the bottom, meaning the transfer port may not be fully exposed/flow as well, and on the .177 rifles, interference between the bolt and the barrel- seems the 'V' entry into the bore with the bolt is not always machined quite precisely. Both of these can be worked around- by elongating the valve transfer port or the tube (necessitating the use of a poly tube seal or some other customization) or filing the bore opening a bit on either side to allow the bolt to feed properly.

The problem is if you hit one of the vendors that hasn't had new stock in a couple years, you may end up getting a unit with more of the issues Al describes (and yes, there are some dealers than must have purchased an entire pallet of products a couple years back and are stilling selling them). One thing to watch out for is anyone still selling QB rifles with the 'TechForce" name on them as they are definitely old stock units (Compasseco/Pyramyd dropped the QB's with the TechForce name about 18 months ago- they are the TechForce name-owner).

That being said, it is still a solid platform and performs quite well once any of these things that may be present have been sorted out. The biggest problem is, it's a copy of a Crosman 160, and Industry Brand hasn't changed any of the design in the 10 years (maybe more) they've been building it- and it was always a copy of the original Crosman from the early '70s. If someone doesn't like the "classic" look to it, they're pretty much stuck. The factory has been asked/told to update the look a bit, but they only thing they have talked about doing is perhaps building a thumbhole wood stock for it- which has not yet appeared for the QB's.

Maybe that's something we should do around here- take the basic QB platform and re-design it for what would be a more modern look/feel and re-ignite interest in it generally. Any takers on posting up re-design ideas? If we can pull something like this together- I can feed it directly to the factory with the idea that "this is the rifle that will sell"- i.e. 'build it and they will come'.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:24 am Reply with quote
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I'm looking at the QB78D, and I like the classic look. So that's not a problem.

Anyone know if Archer's HDD is worth getting?
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