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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:04 pm |
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The outdoorsman |
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what is a PCP air rifle? simple question but it would help a lot |
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:32 pm |
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23ib0d0n |
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Pre
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Pneumatic
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:35 pm |
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AirGunEric |
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PCP= "Pre-Charged Pneumatic" as in an air filled gun. Think of it like a Co² gun but it uses compressed air from a tank or 'reservoir' to feed the gun- not a little 12g 'caplet'. Being air, and using a gun designed for such means much higher pressures can typically be achieved- i.e. 3000psi to drive the pellet, vs. 8-900psi for Co² guns and maybe 1000psi for pumpers (which, obviously, also use air as the propellent- but over 1000psi you'd break the pump handle off before being able to force any more air in).
See the AirGunHome Glossary for basic explanations of things:
http://www.airgunhome.com/pages/glossary.html
Heck- look at the main site page, it has some resources and gets more and more as time goes on:
http://www.airgunhome.com |
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:38 pm |
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AirGunEric |
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23ib0d0n wrote: |
Pre
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Go ahead- ask J. (23ib0d0n) how he knows. |
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:47 pm |
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23ib0d0n |
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AirGunEric wrote: |
Go ahead- ask J. (23ib0d0n) how he knows. |
clicky> A few toys
Compressor
Sumatra
.50 Dragon
250+fpe vs. water filled soda can
FWB 300 {not PCP, but a great 10m rifle}
BBB tuned .308 DAQ
Walther LGR {SSP, also a great 10m rifle} |
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:29 am |
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Jim McArthur |
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Is there something you can buy to charge them yourself, or do you have to take them somewhere to be charged?
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:13 am |
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AirGunEric |
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There are specialized handpumps available (oftentimes called a "hill pump")- much like a bicycle pump, but they will allow much higher pressures to be generated. They take more energy to pump and don't work too fast- but they will fill a reservoir in a PCP gun in a few minutes usually. These pumps are also fairly expensive $200-300 typically.
Other options are getting a SCUBA or fireman's type breathing tank and taking it to a diving shop or fire hall to be filled (SCUBA tanks operate on a full charge at 3000-4500psi). They have a properly designed compressor that can do this sort of job- don't know the price on such a compressor, but needless to say they can't be found at Home Depot for $500. You then use the tank to fill the reservoir in the gun, or connect the tank directly to the gun via a hose with a regulator (to ensure only a specified maximum pressure goes into the gun) to operate.
If you look in J.'s first picture- that is a tank sitting on the ground he uses to feed one of his guns directly (i.e. via a hose and regulator). |
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:32 am |
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Be sure you check with a pro. Some people used pure oxygen and didn't live to tell the tale.
I reccomend PCP's only when you have money left, as they aren't very cheap. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:16 pm |
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23ib0d0n |
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This picture is of a 4500psi Stewart Warner mil surp compressor charging a 550ci carbon fiber tank with 88cf of dessicant dried air. High pressure equipment does require special hoses, fittings and valves to remain safe.
http://www.scubabomb.freeservers.com/Cscuba.htm < This website descibes a lower pressure SCUBA vessel failure and is why the equipment here is very carefully inspected and maintained before, during and after use.
Like race equipment, which can also be very dangerous, high pressure equipment is only as safe as the respect level given to it. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:49 pm |
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Yes. And like racing equipment: it's nothing I plan to get involved with.
Jim |
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