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 Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:08 pm |
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| sureshot18 |
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| what is the heaviest grain pellet that a .177 spring rifle that is about 1000 fps can shoot without harming it? |
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Crosman G1 extreme 177Cal. 1000fps
Gamo shadow express .22 cal 750 fps |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:13 pm |
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| rsterne |
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Stick to pellets between 7.8 and about 9.5 gr. and you won't have a problem.... It can probably handle the 10-10.6 gr heavies but you might experience dieseling which potentially could harm it.... Every gun is different in that regard....
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:25 pm |
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thanks for the info  |
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Crosman G1 extreme 177Cal. 1000fps
Gamo shadow express .22 cal 750 fps |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:04 pm |
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| broommaster2000 |
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The stronger the springer, the heavier the pellet you wanna shoot. You don't want overpowered springers in .177. Some rifles are made for .22 or .25.  |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:48 pm |
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| donec |
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| broommaster2000 wrote: |
| The stronger the springer, the heavier the pellet you wanna shoot. You don't want overpowered springers in .177. Some rifles are made for .22 or .25. |
So just how do you tell how strong your springer is without special equipment? |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:58 pm |
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| It should be shooting about the same speed as other people's guns. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:22 pm |
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| donec |
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| fritz wrote: |
| It should be shooting about the same speed as other people's guns. |
Don't you need special equipment to know how fast it is shooting? Like a Chrony? |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:25 pm |
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| donec wrote: |
| So just how do you tell how strong your springer is without special equipment? |
By getting special equipment. Can't a 100 bucks get you a Chronometer?
There's really not any other way to find out and be sure.
You could do research on what other people usually get with a certain rifle with a certain pellet, but when you're on a budget (this is why you want to safe longer, and look around for a right gun some more), chances are that it's not always the same.
For instance, one B-26 may be perfectly compatible with a Maccari Tunekit, while the other B-26 (same factory, same year) isn't. This has to do with tolerances and how high or low they are. When this plays along, you need a Chrono to be absolutely sure, else it's just guessing. (B-26's are usually at around 14-17 Fpe with average weight pellets? Owners please?)
Finding the right gun takes time. I usually spend a couple of months thinking ahead of what I should get, and I almost always buy used. I do sometimes change my mind in the last couple of weeks because I can get my hands on something better. I'm lucky, because I mostly get good deals, there is a very good Dutch forum with a lot of very helpful people and almost never let the previous owners ship the rifle, I do very prefer to go and pick them up.
I do live in a small country which makes buying used a lot easier though. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:11 pm |
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I was kind of hopping that one of the members that has many guns may have created a chart showing the depth of a specific pellet weight from a specific gun at a given distance in something like a pine 2x4. I think this could give someone a chance to get an idea of the power of their gun in a practical sense instead of going by fps hype or buying equipment they will only use once.
I would be wiling to do it but alas I only have an Accuair Force 1100 break barrel, 1760se co2 and a cfx royal underlever. I am afraid that would not be enough to create a useful chart. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:07 am |
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| That's kind of why we got a forum. The Accuair should be in the 16 Fpe range I guess. The 1760 cab probably do up to 12 Fpe, the CFX should be at around 16 Fpe too. JSB Exact or FTT should do alright in them. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:05 am |
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Way too many variable using a 2x4 board for testing..how old was the tree? Is wood "treated" ? how long ago was tree cut that the 2x4 came from.....As far as "equipment that you will only use once" let me tell ya..you couldn't be more incorrect. (not being a wide-a$$ here, just talking from experience)......FIRST-you can get a Shooting Chrony, Alpha model, delivered to your front door for a less than $100.00, providing you live in a 48 lower US state...see"airgunstyle" on EBay....SECOND....you'll find many things/times that a chrony would be a big help . If you go out once a month and shoot 20 pellets, then do not waste your money on one. If you're totally and hopelessly and totally consumed with all this airgun stuff(read as ME) then it's a must-have.And if you're using gun with power adjuster then it becomes even more valuable. if you don't care about which pellet is faster when you have 2 brands that are same weight don't buy one..If you don't care whether your gun shoots the same at 30 degrees as it does at 90 degrees, don't buy one. If you just bought a B&A (for example only) valve, and you don't care how much it improved your fps, then don't buy one. If you have any airgun that has adjustable hammer strike (power adjuster) and you don't care if you EVER get it adjusted for maximum power out put,(that sweet spot) then don't buy one. See what I mean, Vern?  I honestly didn't think I'd use mine near as much as I do.....until I got it..now, well let's just say that I'm sure glad it's battery operated...I can take it with me no matter where I'm shooting!!! and the printer too! of course, YMMV |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:11 pm |
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| For the practical knowledge I am talking about the variables "Way too many variable using a 2x4 board for testing..how old was the tree? Is wood "treated" ? how long ago was tree cut that the 2x4 came from" while true they will effect the results are just not (in my opinion) going to make enough variation to make the results invalid when the only other comparison tool is fps. It would be better if the manufactures used fpe for their comparisons but most new buyers would not understand what it meant but they can imagine an understanding of fps (speed). Maybe the ability to knock down a target of a given weight and size at a given distance, might be a better example. I do think we as a source of information for new airgun enthusiast should try and come up with something that could fill in where the manufactures leave off. JMO |
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