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AirGunEric · Site Admin

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Here is the root of the problem: http://pelletpen.com/Products.html

They are not the "first" anything, except maybe the "first" commercial vendor of the product (that I can't confirm or deny).

Here is Al- TWO years ago: http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=607&highlight=pellet+loader

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rsterne · Moderator

Well.... sort of....

From the looks of the video on that website the "Pellet pen" looks like it dispenses pellets right into the chamber of a break-barrel with a click action like a ball-point pen.... Granted, it's probably just a modified version of Al's with a sliding pellet pusher from the back.... but to be honest, his is just designed to dispense the pellet into your fingers and you still have to load them by hand.... The demo with the glove kind of puts the point home.... Shocked

I built one of Al's tubular dispensers (in .22 cal) for Grouse hunting, and it works GREAT.... but I can see that with gloves on it would still be a PITA.... Rolling Eyes

On the other hand, the "pellet pen" only works with break-barrels.... Crying or Very sad

Bob

Slavia · Moderator

I have no doubt that 95% of that product is Alstone's work. It can be somewhere between irritating and infuriating to see an idea once provided publicly for the enjoyment of the sport now prostituted for an individual's economic gain. What's the answer? Patent everything we post? There's probably nothing to be done, except...

The implication for we few, on this one forum, is to always provide links to, or otherwise credit the sources of our inspiration. We can't right all wrongs, but we can make this place moral high ground.

Alstone · Moderator & Site Supporter

Interesting! When I design or make an item for airguns, model tanks or steam engines etc I always post it on the relevant forum for anyone to make, even if they want to sell a few that’s not a problem. There are quite a few people in the airgun world who post there ideas on forums for other people to copy and that is what makes the hobby intresting, so I don't really care who copys what. Cool

As I have said many a time when someone wants something making, is that I get fed up after doing one and like to go on to something else, commercial vendors do occasionally copy an idea but change it slightly and there’s nothing I can do about it, because I do not have a patent on the idea, and as Bob pointed out this design loads directly into the breech which is different. Neutral

Thanks Eric for pointing out where it first appeared and giving me the recognition for the idea. I’m waiting for someone to copy the straight pull cocking bolt for a 2240, remember you saw it first on AGH ( or at least I haven't seen one before ) Laughing

Life is short enjoy it

Al