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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Rifles » Crosman AS2250XT Goto page Previous  1, 2    View previous topic :: View next topic  The repeater system is ready to ship.   Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:18 am 23ib0d0n Moderator Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 757 broommaster2000 wrote: One of the people on the dutch forum where I hang also has a crooked barn gun. Didn't they come up with a nice repeating system yet? $85 plus shipping if I remember correctly from the conversation I had with Ron Sauls in Arkansas. http://www.bryanandac.com/2240_variations.htm If anyone is interested in one I can call Ron or Jim and find out for sure what the price is and the shipping weight.   Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:46 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Is that "double action" or "triple action"? Most custom repeaters work triple action. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:41 pm 23ib0d0n Moderator Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 757 broommaster2000 wrote: Is that "double action" or "triple action"? Most custom repeaters work triple action. Works very similar to the Giriandoni sliding breach loading gate. Open the bolt ~ set the pellet in battery ~ close bolt http://www.bryanandac.com/2240_variations.htm   Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:21 am StevieLaner7777 Moderator Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1060 Location: Herefordshire, UK Hi 23ib0d0n Looks like they have some nice guns at "Crooked Barn"!! Though I'm not too sure about that Repeater Breech. Maybe they should have a standard 8 shot rotary clip, And have a longer bolt with a probe, So it will push the pellet thought the 8 shot clip and into the breech also sealing at the breech to prevent gas escaping when fired. Just an idea!!! If this is not possible please let us know why?? Stevie _________________ "Who Dares Wins" - SAS 22nd Regiment Hereford.   Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:17 am StevieLaner7777 Moderator Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1060 Location: Herefordshire, UK Hi All My brother has decided not to get the AS2250XT "Ratcatcher", Because it will cost £170.00 for just the rifle alone!!! So Maybe the QB78 or the QB79 might be an alternative option then. Also, I was just wondering how you fit two 12g CO2 caplets into the QB78, As there is only one CO2" loading tube??? Stevie _________________ "Who Dares Wins" - SAS 22nd Regiment Hereford.   Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:36 am AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6908 Location: "Out There" The QB78 loading tube is actually pressurized- much like that of a PCP gun. One 12g caplet gets loaded in with the small end pointing towards the stock, the other pointing towards the muzzle. Piercing pins knock holes through both. And £170.00 certainly isn't cheap for the 2250! _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:54 am StevieLaner7777 Moderator Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1060 Location: Herefordshire, UK AirGunEric wrote: The QB78 loading tube is actually pressurized- much like that of a PCP gun. One 12g caplet gets loaded in with the small end pointing towards the stock, the other pointing towards the muzzle. Piercing pins knock holes through both. And £170.00 certainly isn't cheap for the 2250! Hi AirGunEric!! Don't you just hate it when other people beat you to a post just as your writing one!?! LOL. Anyways.. Thanks for the info on the QB78, I just couldn't figure that out for sure, And the pictures on the Internet aren't exactly Huge!! Hopefully the QB78 won't be as expensive as the AS2250. Thanks!!! Stevie _________________ "Who Dares Wins" - SAS 22nd Regiment Hereford.   Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:30 am 23ib0d0n Moderator Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 757 StevieLaner7777 wrote: Hi 23ib0d0n Looks like they have some nice guns at "Crooked Barn"!! Though I'm not too sure about that Repeater Breech. Maybe they should have a standard 8 shot rotary clip, And have a longer bolt with a probe, So it will push the pellet thought the 8 shot clip and into the breech also sealing at the breech to prevent gas escaping when fired. Just an idea!!! If this is not possible please let us know why?? Stevie I'm sure it could be possible but first off ~ crooked barn and bryan and assoc are very small. Jim is it at crooked barn and Ron is it at b&a so stuff they work on is after extensive market research. The boss breach is superior for ball ammo, and you'd be really suprised how cheap and accurate ball is when shooting it through a co2 repeater. Rotary systems would require extensive mechanism that would need a much larger capital base and probably automated process equipment. Right now one 'backyard' SC machinest builds the boss breach in lots of 12 every so many months. When you look at how few are sold it makes sense why they didn't go all complicated.   Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:42 am StevieLaner7777 Moderator Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1060 Location: Herefordshire, UK Hi 23ib0d0n Yeah, your probably right!! These "Repeater" System can easily get far too complicated. Maybe someone might invent a rotary push through repeater system sometime in the future!! Stevie _________________ "Who Dares Wins" - SAS 22nd Regiment Hereford.   Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:58 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Anyway, it's triple action as I thought. Rotary would be great though. Maybe someone with the knowledge and to much time on their hands... _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:14 pm StevieLaner7777 Moderator Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1060 Location: Herefordshire, UK Hi Broom! I think triple action it too much work to call the Crooked Barn Repeater A Repeater, I think it's easier to just drop a pellet onto the slide and close the bolt, Simple!!! The Rotary Clip with a push through bolt would be the next best thing!! As the bolt would also rotate the rotary clip as you released it, Making it a double action, High scope rails would be a must, I think!! Q: Does your Umarex Airmagun 850 have a 'Push Through' loading mechanism (The bolt probe pushes the pellet through the Rotary Clip and into the Breech before firing), or is it more similar to the Crosman 1077's Shoot straight through the Clip and let gas escape concept?? Stevie _________________ "Who Dares Wins" - SAS 22nd Regiment Hereford.   Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:44 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands As you said, the bolt pushes the pellet into the breech, closing it down and allowing a big wad of CO2 to propell it towards what ever you are aiming at. It's a very consistent system. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:20 am StevieLaner7777 Moderator Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1060 Location: Herefordshire, UK Hi Broom!! Ah yes!! That how I thought it worked, But I had to know for sure!! It appears that quite a few Airgun companies incorporate this 'Push Through' Rotary feature nowadays. For example: AirArms S200, S400, S410. Daystate X2, Mk 3, Air Ranger, Air Wolf, Basically all the Daystate Airguns. Falcon FN19, FN12, PF18, PF25B. FX T12, Cyclone, Cutlas, Gladiator DA, Gladiator PA, Verminator, Ranchero. Logun Eagle, S-16s, Axsor. Theoben Rapid S-Type, Rapid MFR, E-Type. Umarex 1250 Dominator, 850 AirMagnum. Webley Raiders. And probably more!! Stevie _________________ "Who Dares Wins" - SAS 22nd Regiment Hereford.   Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:29 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands There are some BSA's that use it too, the multi-shot versions. I opened up my Umarex a while ago, as I said before, and I think it could be converted to a pistol. You'd still have a bolt-action pistol though. I think what you need is a system like the 1077, which is basically a single action CO2 revolver without hammer, right? A bit like the Rohm twinmaster maybe? _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:44 am Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND Hi Broommaster, the Rohm Twinmaster does have a hammer but it is covered by a plastic cover for semi-auto use and you take it off for single action, the whole setup is virtualy the same as most of the Umarex pistols, including the 8 shot magazine. 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