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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:00 am |
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| stewartlittle |
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I'v only seen two out of seven places that sell them.
I sure that dont mean that they aint any good.
One reason is I found a used Lightning XL .177caliber.
And also,it has a 14.5 '' barrel and the R9 has a 12.5'' barrel.
I thought a longer barrel like 17''-20'' would give a little more velosity and accuracy,plus be easier to cock. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:49 pm |
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| BSA products are sold in the US by- you'll laugh at this- GamoUSA. If you want to find a BSA dealer, trying calling them. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:51 pm |
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| broommaster2000 |
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| stewartlittle wrote: |
And also,it has a 14.5 '' barrel and the R9 has a 12.5'' barrel.
I thought a longer barrel like 17''-20'' would give a little more velosity and accuracy,plus be easier to cock. |
Did you ever think about the fact that a barrel can also slow a bullet down?
The BSA Lichtning XL IS a high quality gun, but it also needs a good shooting technique, like for instance a Diana 48. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:14 pm |
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| stewartlittle |
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No Broom,I didn't think of that.
But I think I've made my mind up,if I don't change it again.
Beeman R9 .177 caliber
Hawke Air Max 4-12x40
Beeman mounts
Pellets
JSB Express
Beeman FTS
Kodiak Match
CP Heavy
I don't know about the pellets,I just want some that'll shoot good,but that trial and error.
I'm only gonna get 2 tins of the above or 1 box of CP
Hows that set up look? |
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:20 pm |
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I think you'll want them pellets quite heavy.
The Beeman R9 should be a pretty good choice, it's the same action as the Weihrauch HW95, which has proven itself a ton of times. I think it'll do quite well in .177, with some nice and heavy pellets.
The rifle does about 15 Fpe, which is enough up to 50 yards (and some people use them beyond). My Diana does that too, but it's quite shakey.
According to some owners, it will be quite easy on the scope, but they relied on sturdy mounts. I recon that the Beeman ones are pretty alright though. They wouldn't wreck their reputation on some bad scope rings.
Does that Hawke scope have an AO ring? Since I got a scope with an AO ring, I don't want to go back. Hawke scopes aren't bad, from what I've seen.
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:01 pm |
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| Roy |
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stewartlittle,
I have an R9 in .177 and I love it ! My barrel is 410mm(~16.3") which is a little stiff to cock after some hours of shooting, so if you are getting a shorter barrel, consider getting(if it does not already have one) a shroud, sleeve, or brake to give you a little more leverage.
The R9/HW95 is SOLIDLY built and the trigger is unsurpassed among sporting arms. The trigger is light, crisp, and consistent. It is a true two stage design utilizing 4 levers, and is adjustable for weight and engagement(these are good things). Air Arms even copied this design, and so did the Chinese !
I will never part with my R9, regardless of what other rifles I might acquire. It is simply that good.
Some rifles buzz a bit, but a gob of spring gel will take care of that. And because of their high power to weight ratio, they are a little hold-sensitive, but not as bad as the less expensive/highpowered cheapies. A scope and muzzle brake will help hold it down.
About the velocity generated by shorter barrels: The Cardews' experiments showed that in spring piston airguns, peak velocity is attained about 6" from the breech, and from there changes little out to the end of a 19" barrel. Longer barrels than this do slow the pellet. I will not attempt to explain this. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:15 pm |
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You will like the Hawke Airmax scope it as a AO ring and a map reticule, also the turrets are brilliant for changing with gloves on and ideal for Field Target.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:52 am |
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Hawke Air Max. Sounds like a shoe.  |
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:08 am |
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| broommaster2000 wrote: |
Hawke Air Max. Sounds like a shoe.  |
With the right combination it kicks a$$.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:18 am |
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I dont have internet at the house (I dont even have cable or satelite tv)so I could'nt read your replies till this morning.
But it's too late to read it now,I ordered the R9,the Hawkes scope,instead of the Beeman mounts I got a set of Leapers (the seller recommended both of these two peice mounts,I chose the cheaper route),and I got a tin of JSB Express pellets.They weigh 7.9gr.,I hope those'll do for now.I might can call him and change if I need something different.
Thats one of the pellets he recommended,
JSB Express
Beeman FTS
CP Lites
Kodiak Match
Which of those would have picked,or other?
I was trying to go for on that I thought would give the flattest trojectory.
Thanks for the replies and I'm sure I'll be posting more questions after I receive it. |
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:20 am |
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You don't have to worry about the flattest trajectory with such a gun in .177.  |
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:43 am |
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Well,they did'nt have the Double Gold,so I ordered them separately.But I think the Hawke scope would be better than the Banner (not that it's a bad scope).
I like the DG for the muzzle break,but I feel really confident I can make one.Just need to get some dimensions first.I may try to make longer also,to make it easier to cock.
Dangit,should've got a sling,the drilless kind that uses just straps. |
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:50 am |
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Why not make a shroud and then make it 2 or 3 inches longer? Like the HW 98.
Or maybe just order a 98K barrel. The 98 is a 95 with different stock. |
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:01 am |
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I don't know how a shroud is made.If it's solid it would be heavy,unless I use aluminum.I could probly rig up way to extend it a few inches fairly easy.Find some 3/4'' - 1'' dia. aluminum or steel if it's not too heavy and machine it down.
I see what I can do when it gets here. |
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:04 am |
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| Shrouds are made with bushings. You could try synthetic ones, that fit on the barrel. It's fairly easy. |
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