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burl · Member

are nitro piston gun as hard on scopes as a reg spring piston .

mtsheron · Member

I don't think so. In fact mine felt smoother. Sold the gun because I could never get it zeroed in. The piston itself...........very nice.

robert w · Senior Member

i agree less recoil but i couldnt get mine to shoot twice in the same place . nitro is a great idea but the rest have to be made as well. mine was a benjamin titan gp i liked all but the accuracy

viper2788 · Member

I also had trouble with my crosman nitro venom regarding accuracy. First of all, the 3-9x32 scope it came with didnt handle the recoil very well, as POI would shift so often I got tired of zeroing it in. When I upgraded to a better scope, I found the POI would remain stable but accuracy was still an issue. I was shooting about 3" groups at 30 yards. Its probably just me and my "hold," but I shortly gave up on mine. No more break barrels for me

donwalk · Veteran Member

i have the benjamin trail NP in 22

i cannot seem to get a 'zero' either and i've done all the known 'fixes' to no avail.

i tried numerous types of pellets thinking they might be the 'cure'

right now, it's on a "Time out" sitting in my closet awaiting a fate of who knows what?

i like the power and operation, but it's not what it should be... Neutral

i would not get another Benjamin NP unless they improve the accuracy factor.

OTOH...i have a Beeman RX that i WOULD get another. (if i wanted to go that route again.)

robert w · Senior Member

i just returned my titan to walmart . we all seem to have issues with crosman guns , i know they have a huge inventory but how do they stay in buisness as everybody returns the crap and most get their money back and buy a german gun such as a diana 34? we all should have looked , for just a little more $$$ we would be shooting a fine d-34

radar · Silver Status Member

I bet most buyers are teenagers that shoot a couple soup cans from 15 feet away and are happy because it flips them up in the air. I get that impression from Youtube anyway.

robert w · Senior Member

I used to think crosman was a great reputable company. was away from air for years. when i returned i got crosman . boy did i get fooled.i have a crosman 400 that ive had since i was 14 it needs seal kit but never missed a shot unless low on co2. reputation was why i went back . no more crosman guns here. . bought my first german gun a used hw-55 then a bunch of dianas . anything man made can break but every crosman i had was returned more than 1 time . im burned with them chinese junkers. Faq-U

radar · Silver Status Member

They make some really good stuff, but they offer a whole range of quality for price lower points, too, I guess.

Cheers,
Rob

toadmyster223 · Senior Member

I don't have the box or documents anymore, but I think my Gamo Viper has one of those springs? Can anyone help me confirm that? Anyway, my gun is pretty much a tack driver, and once I got the scope on tight enough, I've never had a problem and would in fact testify that it has held a zero through not only thousands of shots, but being dropped and banged around a time or two. Amazing.

DipStick · New Member

I don't see the Problem.. I own a Benjamin Titan GP .22 And Accuracy is NOT one of its issues. Yes the Factory Scope Isn't to great beyond 15 20 yards, Trigger.. well it needs some work *GRT III Trigger turns the TITAN GP into another gun*

But Accuracy just isn't an issue.. at least not for me. I will say though, this gun is NOT a Good Beginner Gun its not one you can just pick up and shoot and be accurate it takes some knowledge must hold the gun correct using the Artillery Hold.

Fixing the Trigger (i just removed my spring, losens it up a bit, my Charlie Trigger hasn't come in the mail yet) and putting on a good AO Scope like a Leapers 5th Gen 3-9x50 AO ( http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Leapers_5th_Gen_3_9x50_AO_Mil_Dot_Rifle_Scope_with_R_G_Reticle_1_Tube/658 )

Then your set..

Regards, Tony

DipStick · New Member

toadmyster223 · Senior Member

Hrm. I don't think it's an Express... Really not positive though :P

robert w · Senior Member

dipstick your 1 of the lucky ones . i have never had troubles with accuracy with my dianas or hw's 2 crosman guns is all i can take ,my old 400 crosman was a fine gun ,still is but quality sure went downhill in the last 20 or so years . and the price of a titan is just a little less than a famous diana 34 specially after you add a trigger and your time is worth something . dianas right out of the box clean the bore and shoot most of mine were very close with open sights

cyberfish2 · Member